Floyd and Calzaghe: What if they lost a couple of early fights?

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  • eubank1
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    #21
    I reckon it wud do the world a favour for some fighters to have lost because some are avoiding and hand picking fights in order to stay unbeaten which is not good for the fans! Some fighters have actually received more praise and have raised theyre profile for how they have lost a fight compared to some fighters winning against not so strong opponents.

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    • llamas1
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      #22
      Originally posted by IronMike.
      Lets say that Calzaghe and Floyd lost a couple of fights when they were green contenders, do you think that would of allowed them to take more risks later in their careers? When you have been undefeated for a long time it can make you overly cautious about losing that 0 later in your career
      Thoughts please?
      Of course he avoided them... If Manny looses his next fight Floyd would claim that Manny if off the radar now.... I firmly belive he retired to avoid Cotto and Margarito And Tszu

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      • tonyjones
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        #23
        Originally posted by IronMike.
        Floyd could of fought Margarito instead of Baldamir
        Calzaghe should of moved up to lhw much sooner. He should of fought Pavlik instead of shot Jones and he definitely should of fought Glen Johnson before he retired
        Your right he should of fought margo but i think it was seen as a big risk/small reward....

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        • SirTomJones
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          #24
          Yeah I think boxing fans woul have benefited from this.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #25
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin
            u cant fault him for fighting baldo. he needed chips in order to negotiate an oscar match and baldo was lineal champ at ww. that was the right decision. he could have fought margs tho, no doubt. that would have been better than fighting judah at least. but going on to fight oscar made him blow up. and did he duck cotto??? kinda hard to argue he did or didnt. i dunno what was on his mind when he retired, but if he legitimately wanted to stop boxing, that was his right. the pac thing tho is the most inexcusable avoidance. we'll see wat happens.
            baldo was a total joke of a fight. gave floyd great outs against his real challenges. something he's proven to alyways be looking for

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            • daggum
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              #26
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor
              baldo was a total joke of a fight. gave floyd great outs against his real challenges. something he's proven to alyways be looking for
              floyd waited till the best fighters lost and then fought the lesser guys. he's the master of triangle theory. it would be similar to if sam peter beat wlad then haye jumped at the chance of fighting peter. cong**** you waited till the dangerous guy lost and then became an opportunist!

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              • Walt Liquor
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                #27
                Originally posted by daggum
                floyd waited till the best fighters lost and then fought the lesser guys. he's the master of triangle theory. it would be similar to if sam peter beat wlad then haye jumped at the chance of fighting peter. cong**** you waited till the dangerous guy lost and then became an opportunist!
                true, but he did fight diego and jlc. (we won't talk about stevie j, spaddy, and casa)

                but yes, that has been his MO later in his career.

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                • FerdinandMarcos
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronMike.
                  Lets say that Calzaghe and Floyd lost a couple of fights when they were green contenders, do you think that would of allowed them to take more risks later in their careers? When you have been undefeated for a long time it can make you overly cautious about losing that 0 later in your career
                  Thoughts please?
                  This fool actually put Joe in the same top as Mayweatther.

                  Pac is the most overly cautious thing in boxing.

                  It's not enough most of his opponents have been KTFO or looked like crap...they have to drain down on top of that.

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                  • jermainerambo
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    hopkins and armstrong lost their first pro fights and they fought into their 40s. if they were undefeated they would have retired long ago to protect their flimsy undefeated records. monzon lost 3 fights early on in his career but when he became champ he challenged himself. all 14 title defenses were against top 5 guys besides napoles who was the number 1 welterweight. if he was undefeated he would have fought a bunch of tocker pudwills.

                    tocker pudwills was a ok fighter best from the usa at that time fought calzaghe and ottke

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                    • FerdinandMarcos
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      true, but he did fight diego and jlc. (we won't talk about stevie j, spaddy, and casa)

                      but yes, that has been his MO later in his career.
                      He fought Shane when Manny wanted no parts of him.

                      He fought Oscar at 154.

                      All ****** does is cherrypick in-house bums and Floyd's leftovers.

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