Since we're on the subject. Better Resume Floyd or Roy?

[Walt Liquor]

Could be read either way but glad its clear now. Its strange because wins over a lesser version of DlH and Mosley is solidifying greatness for Pac right.

Anyway, the win over Tarver was questionable. Neither of those two wins is questionable for Mayweather. I wont try to pick Hill apart, good win. So are you with your boy in the Ruiz mafia?

win over toney>castillo
win over bhop> corrales
win over ruiz> win over oscar, ricky at 147, or zab.

im not a huge ruiz fan, that's for sure, but he was a very tough out back then


and I give pac 0 credit for the shane fight and the dela win, just like i give floyd no credit for the dela win.

but i think the shane win was pretty nice. almost equal to the virgil hill win and more credit than the judah or hatton wins

[jrosales13]

I been watchin Pacquiao and giving credit where its due. Be honest(I know thats tough) Pac's conquering of different divisions placed him leaps and bounds up the ATG list compared to where he would have been pryor to DLH.

Ahh..Pac win over Cotto>>>>The Oscar win...

What the Oscar win did for Pac was made him my favorite active fighter.

Pac wins over the Three Mexican Muskateers, the way he destroyed arguably the best fighter at 122 with just 3 weeks notice, I repeat just 3 weeks notice. Being the only fighter in over 100 years in history. Over a 100 years in history...Do you get the severity of that? Being the only fighter in over 100 years of history to win the lineal(you know the real championship) at both Flyweight and Featherweight 2 of the original 8 weight-classes. Being the only fighter ever to win 4 lineal(you know the real championship) in 4 different weight-class. Being with the likes of Jimmy McClarnin to being elite around bantamweight and also around WW. Being in with Armstrong as the lineal featherweight champion and also being elite at WW. All this is what made Pac overall career, resumes, and accomplishment, jump up the ATG rankings. Not just one win you F'ing idiot.

With you sometimes whole careers count and sometimes they dont. So far you've told me Mereno has the best jab in boxing and Ruiz is elite so you are not to be taken seriously.

, so now we're just going to tell lies now cuz' you're out of you dept in this discussion? I guess you're a student of the Arum gam(e) of hyperbole nonsense.

[Heeb]

, so now we're just going to tell lies now cuz' you're out of you dept in this discussion? I guess you're a student of the Arum gam(e) of hyperbole nonsense.

I like how he called him Mereno

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I like how he called him Mereno

i'm rooting for Erik Mereles this weekend

[Heeb]

i'm rooting for Erik Mereles this weekend

I hope kattzidiz beats gahrahro.

[jrosales13]

I like how he called him Mereno

i'm rooting for Erik Mereles this weekend

[studentofthegam]

Word. The win over de la Hoya really helped Pac get out of Bobby's shadow.

B*tch #3. Everything happens in 3's. LOL.

win over toney>castillo
win over bhop> corrales
win over ruiz> win over oscar, ricky at 147, or zab.

im not a huge ruiz fan, that's for sure, but he was a very tough out back then


and I give pac 0 credit for the shane fight and the dela win, just like i give floyd no credit for the dela win.

but i think the shane win was pretty nice. almost equal to the virgil hill win and more credit than the judah or hatton wins

Why wouldnt Floyd get credit for DLH? The thing about it is I wont take credit from Pac for any of those wins. But the rest is a decent opinion. But honestly Roy chose the fight with Ruiz for the same reason Floyd chose Baldomir. Low skills, tough guy and a title. Theres no convincing me that he is anywhere near elite. Toney over Castillo is cool. An unproven Bhop over a beast Corrales is debateable. Ruiz over Oscar eh... The best I can do is even.

[Heeb]

B*tch #3. Everything happens in 3's. LOL

Please explain to me how a win over DLH and Mosley are what solidified Pac's greatness.

[studentofthegam]

Please explain to me how a win over DLH and Mosley are what solidified Pac's greatness.

Little guy moves up and destroys big guy with big names. Solidifying means its the icing on the cake. The fights he had from 140 on up placed him in a totally different class compared to his wins over the Mexican three. Depending on how he handles Mosley and Floyd maybe top 10 all-time. Is that definition enough?

[Heeb]

Little guy moves up and destroys big guy with big names. Solidifying means its the icing on the cake. The fights he had from 140 on up placed him in a totally different class compared to his wins over the Mexican three. Depending on how he handles Mosley and Floyd maybe top 10 all-time. Is that definition enough?

How would a win over Mosley do anything for him? Mosley is coming off a loss and a draw. His win over Cotto is much better than the win over Mosley, even if it was at a catchweight.