If Wlad beats Haye, where would you rank it?

[Jedi Vader]

B rated victory

[Earl-Hickey]

C level win imo.

Haye's attributes mean Wlad really should win this fight no problems.

[hugh grant]

It would be a great win for Wlad as nobody seems to be able to beat Haye or be ahead of him in a fight.
Haye has never been counted out to ten as well, stopped on his feet yes.

[Joeyzagz]

You said "Wlad was scared to throw" LIE

You need to figure out the the difference between a fact and an opinion before you start throwing around the L word. It is clearly my opinion that Wlad was scared to throw. I never stated it as fact, so its ridiculous to call it a lie.

When you say:"Vitali scared Lennox into retirement" This is merely your opinion You can not prove exactly what was going on inside his hall-of-fame head when he made his decision.


When I say: Lennox defeated Vitali Klitschko TKO6 this is a FACT. A fact verified on Lennox's record as well as Vitali's record.

[teddycanyon]

C rated, Haye hasn't demonstrated anything to be regarded as high as he is in some circles. It's a step over the Juan Carlos Gomez bullcrap but not that big of a step up. and btw, only if Lennox won decisively which he didn't should his win over Vitali be placed high at all. And having said that, it's not even close to being on the level of all time great wins. If you're going to make Tyson over Spinks B level, i don't see why Lennox over a Vitali due to a stoppage on cuts when he was behind on the cards constitutes an A level win.

[Jimbo16031992]

I find it odd that you place Louis' win over Billy Conn as the same as Wladimir Klitschko beating fat Eddie Chambers.

This will be a C/B level win.

[Klitschko2011]

Vitali Klitschko vs Lennox Lewis

THE TRUTH

Vitali took the fight on just 10 days notice.

Vitali was clearly winning the fight 4-2 on all 3 scorecards at the time of the controversial doctor stoppage. Lewis was badly hurt, was holding on for dear life and was staggering around the ring like a drunk, he barely survived the 2nd round. Lewis was getting outboxed, outworked, outlanded and was badly hurt several times in the fight.

punches landed

Vitali 156

Lewis 102


Lewis was exhausted, worn down and hurt from the accumulation of punches and was ready to get KTFO again, he collapsed onto his stool at the end of the 6th round, Vitali was clearly the fresher of the two, he was a man on a mission and would've KO'd Lewis for sure if the fight had continued.

All the fans at Staples Center cheered for Vitali and booed Lewis after the fight.

Lewis promised Vitali a rematch.

Vitali destroyed Kirk Johnson in 2 rounds and called out Lewis again in the post fight interview. The scared Lewis retired shortly after that fight.

Lewis turned down 30 million dollars for a rematch and retired like a coward because he knew he would get destroyed by Vitali.

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared his bitch ass into retirement.



George Foreman: "Vitali was winning the fight. Lewis got lucky. There has to be a rematch!"

Jim Lampley: "A lucky escape for Lewis who was clearly losing the fight"

Even Emanuel Steward was upset and pissed off at Lewis for blatantly ducking a Vitali rematch.

Lewis is scared to death of Vitali.

[Klitschko2011]

Lewis was coming off the KO win over Tyson. In the Lewis-Tyson post fight interview Lewis stated "I'm like fine wine, I get better with age"

In an interview right before the Vitali fight, Lewis said "I'm at the peak of my powers, I will keep fighting for many more years"

Vitali dominated Lewis and scared him into retirement. That's a FACT.

[Ray*]

B minus, The thing is a Wlad win does less for him than a Haye win would do for Haye, So Wlad is taking more risk for this fight so credit to him.

[Joeyzagz]

C rated, Haye hasn't demonstrated anything to be regarded as high as he is in some circles. It's a step over the Juan Carlos Gomez bullcrap but not that big of a step up. and btw, only if Lennox won decisively which he didn't should his win over Vitali be placed high at all. And having said that, it's not even close to being on the level of all time great wins. If you're going to make Tyson over Spinks B level, i don't see why Lennox over a Vitali due to a stoppage on cuts when he was behind on the cards constitutes an A level win.

Im rating based on caliber of opponent if you didnt notice. Vitali Klitschko was age 31 and at his absolute best when Lennox faced him.

Spinks is only B level because he was fighting outside his primary weight class. LHW Spinks was a monster.