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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    You have to understand 2 things , one is weight and how it works in boxing and the other is these are F1 athletes not lounge lizards , and that means they are on a razors edge , so when you say its just a pound it means way more than that to a fighter already right down on his weight .

    Let take Margo , for him to make that weight he would have to train at a lower weight for most of training at least in the last 3-4 weeks , that in itself lowers his training and recovery powers so it starts to wear you down the first sign is no snap sluggish ect , you can be super super fit when weight drained but you will be plodding with no snap in the fight , now as the fight gets near you are full on about your weight and by the time you dehydrate to make it the damage was already done , adding water right at the end will not compensate for weeks of making weight , the damage is already done .

    Now if you think that is bulldust ask yourself why one of worlds leading trainers is so adamant on getting a lower weight for Pacs opponets fighting for titles , your nothing 1-2 pound with Cotto was a no fight if Cotto didnt agree , you still think it dont mean nothing to Roach ,,, lol he knows exactly what he doing forcing opponents to come in lower than the official limit for a WT ,,, come on blind Freddie could see whats going down .
    margarito is a welterweight so you admit him fighting at 150 as opposed to draining himself to make 147 was to his advantage.

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      #12
      Originally posted by boxingking500
      what does that mean when they call pacquiao a weight drainer??? what does that really mean

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        #13
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        IF TWO POUNDS DONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN WHY WAS THE COTTO PAC FIGHT NOT FOUGHT AT THE 147 POUND LIMIT. IF IT IS FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP AT THAT WEIGHT THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO FIGHT AT THAT WEIGHT LIMIT. WEIGHT DRAINING IS TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE BY MAKING THE FIGHTER DRAINING HIMSELF OF ALL HIS ENERGY JUST TO MAKE THE WEIGHT LIKE OSCAR IN THE PAC FIGHT. YOU CAN TELL BY THE SKIN DISCOLORATION AND IF CLOSE ENOUGH THE IV POKES IN THE SKIN TO REHYDRATE THE FIGHTER. ROACH SAID THIS FOR THE OSCAR FIGHT. ITS NOT FALSE ROACH SAYS IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE DOES THIS TO GET HIS FIGHTER AN ADVANTAGE. SO STOP DEFENDING OR DEBATING THIS FACT. TEAM PAC ADMITS THIS.

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          #14
          cotto and margarito are both welterweights

          pacquiao fights cotto 2 pounds below the welterweight limit. cotto is weight drained!

          pacquiao fights margarito 3 pounds above the welterweight limit. margarito is weight drained!

          and that's why no one takes *****s seriously because they have no consistency to their arguments.

          next it will be mosley is weight drained because he fought him at 147 instead of 154.

          then it will be marquez is weight drained because he fought him at 147 instead of 135.

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            #15
            Originally posted by boxingking500
            well last time i checked

            the cotto catchweight 145lb i believe was only like a 1 pound difference in which cotto usually comes in at.. so i doubt 1,2 pounds make a difference

            margarito came in at 150, pac came in like 144.. and to really think margarito would of won if it was at the full limit 154.. pac demolished him...

            why are catchweights considered "bad" now since pac has been using them, when they have been perfectly acceptable in the sport of boxing for many years.. hypocrites i tell you
            then why did he not fight them at the full weight limit is the next question!

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              #16
              Originally posted by daggum
              margarito is a welterweight so you admit him fighting at 150 as opposed to draining himself to make 147 was to his advantage.
              Athletes grow , Margo was a WW and then he had 2 yrs off blew up and fought at 154 ,, he aint no WW any more and he was weight drained at 150 .

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                Margarito couldnt make welterweight after the year off. He balloned to a healthy 160 plus and was fighting at 154. He admitted to being shook for the Mosley fight with no energy and thats why he moved up in weight. Neither guy deserved the title shot. Him or Pac.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  You have to understand 2 things , one is weight and how it works in boxing and the other is these are F1 athletes not lounge lizards , and that means they are on a razors edge , so when you say its just a pound it means way more than that to a fighter already right down on his weight .

                  Let take Margo , for him to make that weight he would have to train at a lower weight for most of training at least in the last 3-4 weeks , that in itself lowers his training and recovery powers so it starts to wear you down the first sign is no snap sluggish ect , you can be super super fit when weight drained but you will be plodding with no snap in the fight , now as the fight gets near you are full on about your weight and by the time you dehydrate to make it the damage was already done , adding water right at the end will not compensate for weeks of making weight , the damage is already done .

                  Now if you think that is bulldust ask yourself why one of worlds leading trainers is so adamant on getting a lower weight for Pacs opponets fighting for titles , your nothing 1-2 pound with Cotto was a no fight if Cotto didnt agree , you still think it dont mean nothing to Roach ,,, lol he knows exactly what he doing forcing opponents to come in lower than the official limit for a WT ,,, come on blind Freddie could see whats going down .
                  This explanation will not be understood by non athletes.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    cotto and margarito are both welterweights

                    pacquiao fights cotto 2 pounds below the welterweight limit. cotto is weight drained!

                    pacquiao fights margarito 3 pounds above the welterweight limit. margarito is weight drained!

                    and that's why no one takes *****s seriously because they have no consistency to their arguments.

                    next it will be mosley is weight drained because he fought him at 147 instead of 154.

                    then it will be marquez is weight drained because he fought him at 147 instead of 135.
                    margo cant make 147 anymore...he barley made 150

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by EMACULATE
                      IF TWO POUNDS DONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE THEN WHY WAS THE COTTO PAC FIGHT NOT FOUGHT AT THE 147 POUND LIMIT. IF IT IS FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP AT THAT WEIGHT THEN IT MAKES SENSE TO FIGHT AT THAT WEIGHT LIMIT. WEIGHT DRAINING IS TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE BY MAKING THE FIGHTER DRAINING HIMSELF OF ALL HIS ENERGY JUST TO MAKE THE WEIGHT LIKE OSCAR IN THE PAC FIGHT. YOU CAN TELL BY THE SKIN DISCOLORATION AND IF CLOSE ENOUGH THE IV POKES IN THE SKIN TO REHYDRATE THE FIGHTER. ROACH SAID THIS FOR THE OSCAR FIGHT. ITS NOT FALSE ROACH SAYS IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HE DOES THIS TO GET HIS FIGHTER AN ADVANTAGE. SO STOP DEFENDING OR DEBATING THIS FACT. TEAM PAC ADMITS THIS.
                      True , if it means nothing like they try to spin in here , why demand it , why fight Margo at 150 for a 154 title straight after saying a legit 154 WC in Foreman was too big , thats what Roach said Foreman is two big so we will fight Margo instead at 150 ,,, its a joke all this crap around Pac fights , every dam fight , CW , or monster rings , non official glove size , even now he ducks Mosleys like the plague untill Floyd and Mora show how shot Mosley is ,now Pac is saying I want to out do Floyd .

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