Floyd hasn't been in a real fight for almost a decade

[TheRealTruth321]

That might explain why he hesitates so much to fight Manny. He might doubt himself a little. Now that's reaching I'll admit but you can't deny he has avoided some legit matches that would've been tougher for him. For the past several years (pretty much since Castillo back in 2002) Floyd has been carefully matched with either much older, much smaller or far lesser skilled fighters. Yes, an arguement could be made about Manny having a similar matchmaking schedule in very recent bouts but at the absolute worst even haters of Manny would admit Cotto in 2009 (much more recent) was a real fight against a highly skilled, dangerous opponent. Floyd has beaten some good to very good fighters (on paper) but let's face it the DLH he beat was about as shot as the one Manny beat. The Hatton he beat was a naturally smaller man than him and in the Manny fight Hatton was about equal in terms of size. I know the *****s will jump all over this saying I'm a hater but it's a legitimate arguement that Floyd hasn't been in there with a prime live dog in years. If he fights Spaddy that basically follows the gameplan of either old, small or weak fighters. Castillo must still be on his mind, why else would he avoid the most serious of challenges.

I read that ish and gave up on this thread...

But yes the TS does have half a point

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38 year old mosley with 1 legit win over top competition in the last nine years and coming off a long layoff is just as good as castillo because ring magazine said so!

[Chopper417]

Floyd has only been in a handful of competitive fights in his entire career and it is not because of the caliber of opponents he's faced. I mean cmon dude, regardless of the circumstances nobody has embarassed Marquez or Mosley like Floyd did. Besides the second round of the Mosley fight those were 2 of the most non competitive fights you will ever see. People can say what they want about the weight or the circumstances of the Marquez fight but Floyd LITERALLY made Marquez look like a complete joke/amateur while Marquez beat Pac 16/24 rounds in their 2 fights combined. Marquez has never and will never be embarassed like that in a boxing ring like he was with Floyd.

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I read that ish and gave up on this thread...

But yes the TS does have half a point

what was so great about the delahoya floyd fought? delahoya retired because he didn't have it anymore not because he was "weight drained" if he didn't have it anymore against pac then certainly a year earlier he didn't have much.

[welcometosaigon]

Like Shane Mosley??

P4P Number 3?

Number 1 WW?

A guy 95% of NSB said he wouldnt fight?

THIS. It's so funny how haters don't want to give Floyd any credit for fighting Mosley, who actually looked great his last fight (take notes Manny) when he completely destroyed Margarito (who people say Floyd ducked, when in reality he made the best decision possible to fight DLH instead and become a PPV star).

Mosley was THE BEST FIGHTER AVAILABLE outside of Pacman. I really want someone to dispute this fact.

[Chopper417]

THIS. It's so funny how haters don't want to give Floyd any credit for fighting Mosley, who actually looked great his last fight (take notes Manny) when he completely destroyed Margarito (who people say Floyd ducked, when in reality he made the best decision possible to fight DLH instead and become a PPV star).

Mosley was THE BEST FIGHTER AVAILABLE outside of Pacman. I really want someone to dispute this fact.

It's easy for people to discredit the fight after May makes them look like nobodies (Hatton, Mosley). Then here comes Manny to clean up Floyd's scraps as usual, what a complete joke. Freddie Roach before Mayweather and Mora: "Mosley is too good at 147." Now it's ok to fight Mosley though since he looked miserable against Floyd and Mora. That has to be embarassing for Pac fans.

[welcometosaigon]

38 year old mosley with 1 legit win over top competition in the last nine years and coming off a long layoff is just as good as castillo because ring magazine said so!

At that point, who would you rather have seen Floyd fight outside of Pacquiao?

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THIS. It's so funny how haters don't want to give Floyd any credit for fighting Mosley, who actually looked great his last fight (take notes Manny) when he completely destroyed Margarito (who people say Floyd ducked, when in reality he made the best decision possible to fight DLH instead and become a PPV star).

Mosley was THE BEST FIGHTER AVAILABLE outside of Pacman. I really want someone to dispute this fact.

yeah mayweather is the best at triangle theories cong****! he somehow managed to avoid all the top welterweights in their prime and ended up fighting 38 year old mosley, a lightweight and baldomir. just a coincidence.

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At that point, who would you rather have seen Floyd fight outside of Pacquiao?

i admit floyd is the best at beating the second best option(all time great stuff). will you admit he refuses to fight the best option?

what if muhammad ali refused to fight liston, frazier and foreman and instead fought terrell, faded patterson, and chuvalo. yeah those guys are good but people would say why isn't he fighting the best guys in their prime? well some clueless people would come up with excuses like foreman lives too far away, liston isn't a ppv star or frazier isn't the CEO of his own company.

[welcometosaigon]

i admit floyd is the best at beating the second best option(all time great stuff). will you admit he refuses to fight the best option?

If by refusing you mean conceding the following stipulations: ring size, glove size, weight penalty, 50/50 split, etc. And having his one demand that BOTH fighters undergo OST denied...if you want to say based on that he is refusing to fight pacquiao go ahead. But you can just as easily say Pacquiao is avoiding Mayweather by refusing to get tested and all his "look my accomplishment in boxing...i don't care if I fight floyd, i don't need him" nonsense.