Who Won Pac-Bradley? Post fight discussion STOP MAKING NEW THREADS ABOUT THIS FIGHT.

[dan_cov]

That is just muscle knowing Bradley.

[Hougigo]

Pac won 1190 Rounds to 0

[jai mari078]

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Bradley still got dominated on the 2nd watch. People are just trying find rounds and make an excuse for Bradley when he got thoroughly dominated!

This fight showed Bradley was not on an elite fighters level. He did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to justify a win or a draw for that matter. He got absolutely worked and all that **** he talked he didn't live up tithe hype.

[Salardo]

I know some people are saying Pac looked like sh-t. But I actually think it was a great win on his resume (yes, win - think I'm gonna call that a loss?). The reason he took his foot off the pedal was because he should have been so far in the lead, and Tim was in retreat mode (even finishing the fight would have been commendable).

Bradley is a very good fighter who was made to look so thoroughly mediocre by an unfocused and bored Manny who didn't even stretch himself.

that is EXACTLY how I saw it. Pacquiao looked bored to me at the end of the fight. Maybe he didnt wanna finish him off, but Bradley only threw lazy jabs and Pacquiao at times didnt throw anything anymore. But that is not a case of "Bradley outboxed him at the end of the fight". its a case of Pacquiao taking his foot off the pedal. and he DID make Bradley look like an average fighter and anybody who knows boxing knows that Bradley is actually an excellent fighter.

[coolka]

I found the compubox numbers to be exaggerated so I picked a random round to analyze. I downloaded an HD 60fps version of the fight and I watched the round in extremely slow motion (please put the jokes aside). When it looked like a punch landed, I watched it frame by frame to make sure it did.

Here are the results of every punch landed with a short description of the punch. Only kept tract of the punches landed. Don't care about thrown.

2:32 Bradley body punch
2:32 Bradly body Punch
2:16 Bradley jab
1:59 Pacquia right hook
1:46 Bradley right
1:43 Bradley left
1:38 Bradley jab
1:37 Bradly grazing right hook
1:29 Braldey southpaw left
1:29 Bradley right
1:21 Bradley jab
1:19 Bradley jab
0:59 Bradley jab
0:43 Bradley jab
0:36 Pacquiao right hook
0:33 Pacquiao right hook
0:22 Pacquiao right hook
0:14 Pacquiao left hook
0:12 Bradley right hook
0:12 Pacquiao right hook
0:10 Pacquiao left hook
0:10 Pacquiao right hook
0:01 Pacquia straight left
0:01 Bradley body shot
0:01 Bradlye body shot

In the end, Pacquiao landed 9 punches and Bradley landed 16. There were a few punches that were hard to call, but this is about right. Notice that Pacquiao only landed 1 punch in the first 2 minutes and 24 seconds of the fight. The punches landed after came from a flurry that didn't really land that cleanly. Bradley actually landed the cleaner punches in this round surprisingly. This is actually a pretty clear round that should go to Bradley after close scrutiny. Compubox somehow got 22 punches for Pac and 8 for Bradley. So yeah, lets stop paying attention to compubox numbers.

Son, slapping jabs aren't counted as landed punches but as mere thrown punches


1. Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao.
2. Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao.
3. Ray Markarian, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
4. Michael Marley, Examiner: 119-109 Pacquiao.
5. Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao.
6. Vittorio Tafur, San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao.
7. Michael Woods, The Sweet Science: 119-109 Pacquiao.
8. Ramon Aranda, 3 More Rounds: 118-110 Pacquiao.
9. Mario Cabrera, Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao.
10. Nigel Collins, ESPN: 118-110 Pacquiao.
11. Mike Coppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
12. Ace Freeman, Fight Fan: 118-110 Pacquiao.
13. Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao.
14. Kelsey McCarson, The Sweet Science: 118-110 Pacquiao.
15. Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing: 118-110 Pacquiao.
16. Pete O’Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao.
17. Eric Raskin, Grantland: 118-110 Pacquiao.
18. Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
19. Colin Seymour, Examiner: 118-110 Pacquiao.
20. Ryan ********, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao.
21. Ryan Burton, Boxing Scene: 117-112 Pacquiao.
22. Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 117-111 Pacquiao.
23. Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao.
24. Gareth Davies, London Daily Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao.
25. Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao.
26. David Greisman, Boxing Scene: 117-111 Pacquiao.
27. Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow: 117-111 Pacquiao.
28. Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao.
29. Robert Littal, Black Sports Online: 117-111 Pacquiao.
30. Steve Kim, Max Boxing: 117-111 Pacquiao.

The list won't stop....but you can hit the link if you like
http://blog.johnny360.com/2012/06/cancer-in-boxing.html

[jayjames616]

Arum wanted him to plain and simple.

[yuppie]

Andre Berto @AndreBerto
Everybody don't give up on the sport yet.. #TeamBerto commin soon



Posted on his Twitter right after the fight.

I couldn't appreciate the unintentional hilarity of it right then for obvious reasons.

But now...

I dont know whose worse at twitter...Berto or Oscar..

[ianhunter]

Bradley didn't do anything significant in the 3rd.

i notice you edited from 'right hooks' to 'left hooks'. it was two straight lefts and they both missed. watch it again.

what pacquiao did in the 3rd to an almost exclusive degree was miss.


tim landed a jab to the gut, he landed a couple hard right hands to pacquiao's head while he had pac's right arm tied up, he caught pac off balance in the center of the ring and knocked him back with a long left, he tied pac's right arm and landed a pair of rights to manny's ribs and head, and he landed a right hand to the body.

[ussy]

Ok on the night of the fight I had Pac winning by 3 rds..I really thought it was a clear win for Pac..I was trying not to listen to the commentary by HBO,but I won't lie it got to me and effected the way I scored the fight...Not to mention I had guest in my house..They were all telling me I was crazy for even giving Bradley the rds that I did...At the end I won't lie I was shocked..Like I said I had Pac winning by 3 rds the night of...

Now on my rewatch,I watch this fight on the TR feed the second time around(side note they were way better then the HBO crew)they were not as bias..I truly thought it was a great fight..That could be 7-5 either way,I gave the fight to Bradley on second watch..I just thought he did more in most of the rds..There were times were Pac would not do anything until 40 secs left in the rd..I have to say I can't give a fighter a rd who has taking off most of it and trys to steal it at the last sec...I will say Pac landed the more eye poping shots..Bradley worked more imo..I could see anyone having this fight 7-5 Pac or 7-5 Bradley or even 6-6 even..This was not a robbery or a blowout,it was a close fight that imo Bradley won...

Fully agree with you man

[Khalid X]

Maybe but I didn't see age. I think Pac took some time to figure him out and when Bradley didn't go early he just kept spot fighting him. He looked sharper than he has in over a year. The fight was a little like McCallum-Toney II where one guy had big bursts later in the rounds he won. I don't think it was age as much as maybe Manny showing too much respect. Still gave him eight rounds here. Could also be the judges have had so much heat lately they freaked and didn't want to blow a big one against the 'dog.

If they rematch, he needs to come in closer to 140 and go for it.

I agree with you here and this is what I stated the other day when peiople claimed he looked like crap.

IMO the only thing I didn't like was Manny's accuracy and timing. It was a bit off, but his speed and power was definitely there.

People look at his drop in work rate as a cause of concern, but I saw a fighter who was trying to pick his spots, and a fighter who was relaxed (maybe too much) in the ring.

I was also impressed by his defense for the most part, but Tim did catch him a few times in there with some big shots (although none of them hurt Manny).

Overall I thought he looked the best he has looked since Cotto. He looked like a fighter that was several levels above Tim and that's saying a lot as I feel Tim is the 3rd best fighter 147 and below.