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  • Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
    call me crazy, but ever since this alleged steroid scandal, mannys past 2 fights he has looked awful. watching 24/7 he looks weaker, and his heart does not seem in it as much, regardless of what bs his camp is spewing at any given moment. bradley is young, strong, and hungry, and does not seem to be intimated by pacquiao, based on his latest showings, and he has the skill and resilience to beat him. pac is not exactly super difficult to figure out, so if tim can handle his power (which appears to not be there as much as it once was), he is going to rip him apart, because he has equal, if not better, stamina, and better skills. only thing pac has over tim nowadays is power. that is how tim will beat him

    any other questions?
    besides his HUGE advantage in power (bradley has about as much power as the great paulie malignaggi), he is much faster, much more accurate, uses angles better...want more?

    pac throws sharp straight punches, bradley throws wide wild punches.

    i will break this fight down. early rounds, bradley will play it safe like he always does (they said this would be the strat even in the faceoff), he will try to fight like marquez did and counter pac. he will do alright with this, but he is no marquez and he will not be as effective and will be losing the rounds due to pac being more active and landing more.

    after 3-4 rounds of this, bradley switches his gameplan and tries to bullrush pac head first with wide flurries. pac catches bradley with shots right through the middle and upper cuts like he did Cotto when he got wild, Bradley hits the canvas once or twice but doesn't run because he has a lot of heart and will.

    joel diaz or the ref will save him from taking a career ending beatdown.

    any other questions?

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    • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      ^^^^
      Ha ha, holds no legacy value? Bradley is unbeaten and the best in his division, so how can he not be as good a legacy fight as Gatti, or Corrales or hernandez was for FLoyd?

      Get outta here dude.
      Ah so now the unbeaten means a lot with Bradley , when do you think Holt and Witter make the HOF lol, your such a biased fanboy !.

      Bradley has not fought an elite fighter yet !! this fight will show if Bradley makes the grade , right now so far he is not in it !

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      • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
        ^^^^
        Ha ha, holds no legacy value? Bradley is unbeaten and the best in his division, so how can he not be as good a legacy fight as Gatti, or Corrales or hernandez was for FLoyd?

        Get outta here dude.
        So is Gamboa but if Mayweather fought him right now it would hold ABSOLUTELY NO LEGACY VALUE FOR HIM.

        The weight disparagement takes away from any real value other than win.

        The same goes for Marquez. Marquez wasn't a legacy win for Mayweather. It was an exhibition. Even if Floyd had made weight, the disparagement was too great for anyone to think that Marquez had any real chance against the world's current greatest talent since Roy Jones.

        You and peasant fans like you are simply obsessed with names and not the quality that comes with them. You have no idea of how to measure the value of a win. Its simply who a guy fought and THAT'S IT in your mind.

        If that were the case, Amir Khan could go up right now and face Canelo. I personally think that would be a great fight. If Canelo beat him would he hold legacy value? No it wouldn't. People want to see champions take care of business in their own yard or move up, not down.

        When you peasant understand that?

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        • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Ah so now the unbeaten means a lot with Bradley , when do you think Holt and Witter make the HOF lol, your such a biased fanboy !.

          Bradley has not fought an elite fighter yet !! this fight will show if Bradley makes the grade , right now so far he is not in it !
          Bradley is highly rated cos people have seen what he can do, are impressed with what he has done, and can do, and what he might do against Pac. People expect him to give the no1 p4p fighter a very tough fight.

          So if Pac beats Bradley of course it will add to Pacs resume. The whole resume is looked at at the peak years of a fighter, so why shouldnt Bradley add to Pacs resume? Of course it does silly billy.

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          • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
            Ah so now the unbeaten means a lot with Bradley , when do you think Holt and Witter make the HOF lol, your such a biased fanboy !.

            Bradley has not fought an elite fighter yet !! this fight will show if Bradley makes the grade , right now so far he is not in it !
            Now I'm not on these guys side. But i'd like to know of any elite fighters that Bradley could of fought. Please, do tell.

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            • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              Now I'm not on these guys side. But i'd like to know of any elite fighters that Bradley could of fought. Please, do tell.
              Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

              They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !

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              • Alexander was supposed to be unbeatable, the next Mayweather. He was twice as fast as Bradley and threw very straight punches....what happened there? Bradley was laughing at him on the way to the corner and Alexander couldn't hit Bradley with anything.

                Abregu was supposed to KO Bradley because he was much bigger and had power. Bradley wobbled him the entire fight and dominated him.

                If Clottey was able to stand there, stationary and only throw like 10 punches all night and bust Pac's face up, then I can't understand why people don't think Bradley can't do anything to him.

                Pac is hittable and a good combination of movement, defense, timing and counter punching will have Pac looking less than the beast he is known for being.
                Last edited by mathed; 06-04-2012, 07:16 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

                  They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !
                  Stop wearing the fact that you arent a boxing fan but a floyd fan like a badge of honour.

                  Bradley is on paper better than Baldomir, Gatti, judah. who lost to Baldomir and Kostya, and better than just about every other fighter on Floyds resume. And if you take off of those names off of Floyds resume, there is no one left on Floyds resume, and what you are saying Floyd is a nothing.

                  Ask Bute what Elite and unbeaten means? Why dont i ask Floyd, is he elite or unbeaten?
                  Bradley has answered much more questions than Bute so dont compare Bradley to Bute. Compare Bradley to floyd.
                  And yes, Bute will add to Frochs legacy as well, you non boxing fans out there.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 06-04-2012, 07:36 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    Im not blaming Bradley just not putting the cart before the horse , Im just sticking to facts not the maybe would have deal, at this point Bradley is potential and really nothing more , the facts that we " do " know is he doesnt possess power has some bad flaws that Holt capitalized on and dropped him twice , this is a big rise in class to what Tim has fought to this point , if Holt can put him down Pac should take him out thats the cold hard facts of the fight and the reason they chose Tim in the first place , this fight is about showcasing Manny and getting him 50/50 with Floyd .

                    They all unbeaten until they get beat ! you have got to be real as far as the opponents go when looking at the merrit of unbeaten records , on face value it doesnt really mean anything , ask Bute what elite is and unbeaten means !
                    Well it is a fact that Bradley was the most dominant fighter at 140, which was in fact a deeper division than welterweight. Now while it's fine to talk about Bradley's flaws & him being dropped by a monumentally hard punching Holt, Pacman isn't flawless himself. He is a proven unified champion & he can move.

                    I won't even use this fight to bring up 50/50 with Floyd. It's been obvious for some years now that that fight isn't happening. but I'm fairly certain that you are overlooking Bradley in this particular matchup.

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                    • Anyone who says Bradley is a better boxer than Pac is either trolling or a moron. As For Bradley dominating 140, he ducked the best fighter at 140 saying I can't fight him in case I lose. That's not dominating.

                      Bradley will lose, it's just a matter of whether he gets Hattoned or Cottoed.

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