Is Ortiz better the Collazo?

[Hi-Dro]

Why not Maidana could ko anyone potentially and its not like Hatton is going to be able to keep distance and if anything would enable his own ko loss with his style seeing as he has done it twice already.

did Maidana ko Kotelnik? hmmmmmmm

and you're right. Hatton wouldn't keep his distance. He would be all up in Maidana (no hom.o) and in close. Is Maidana a dangerous fighter inside? No! Did he KO glass jaw Khan when he had him on the inside? No! If anything his power was diminished, as he needs room to load up on his punches, which Hatton wouldn't give him.

Hatton's chin is seriously underrated. Any fighter walking forward with their hands down, and chin in the air gets knocked da **** out by Pacquiao. That's more a testament to Pacquiao's ability, and power then to his opponents chins, which is why many people presume Hatton has, or had a weak chin.

[ThoedEssay]

The fact that he walked through Tszyu punches proves that you saying Hatton had a glass chin is complete BS. Hatton was a good pressure fighter that got off and then tied his opponent up, the Hatton that fought Tszyu would give anyone a good fight. He wasn't going to be stopped that night.

Tszyu was past it that's why After he Lost he Retired and Hatton IMO does have a weak chin

[Jack Napier]

not really
Ortiz is new to WW so he has to prove himself there
Collazo is an upper tier journeyman

[KnockUTheFukOut]

well some people just want to see Berto lose SO BAD so they try to convince themselves that who ever he is fight "MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE" it was a few CLUELESS IDIOTS on this forum that was trying to PUMP UP Hernandez (Berto's last fight) talking about his "POWER" and how he could KO Berto because "BERTO HAS A WEAK CHIN"

by the way...getting rocked does not mean you have a "WEAK CHIN" getting KNOCKED THE *** OUT...every time Berto got rocked or staggered, he recovered well EVERY TIME...THAT IS NOT A "WEAK CHIN"

does Froch have a weak chin because Kessler wobbled him? Dirrell wobbled him as well in their match...some people clearly are confused as to what a Weak Chin Is

Amir Khan has a Weak Chin! Roy Jones has/had a suspect chin!

[Spray_resistant]

did Maidana ko Kotelnik? hmmmmmmm

and you're right. Hatton wouldn't keep his distance. He would be all up in Maidana (no hom.o) and in close. Is Maidana a dangerous fighter inside? No! Did he KO glass jaw Khan when he had him on the inside? No! If anything his power was diminished, as he needs room to load up on his punches, which Hatton wouldn't give him.

Hatton's chin is seriously underrated. Any fighter walking forward with their hands down, and chin in the air gets knocked da **** out by Pacquiao. That's more a testament to Pacquiao's ability, and power then to his opponents chins, which is why many people presume Hatton has, or had a weak chin.

Hatton hasn't the defense that Kotelnik has, Maidana is dangerous inside he will foul and make it ugly while doing pretty much anything he can to get Ricky off of him to land some bombs.

[studentofthegam]

No! He's not even half as good as Collazo.

so da **** does a win over him do for Berto? It doesn't do ****. So stop hyping this fight up like it means something. It's just another bull**** fight for Berto. I wouldn't be making this thread if he wasn't holding the WW belt hostage. He needs to give it up and move down to 140, since those are the only fighters he will be fighting.

Why not fight Clottey? Marg? Cotto? Berto already ducked Mosley by demanding 50-50 after Mosley was coming of an impressive ppv against Floyd. He has no intentions of fighting anybody worth ****.

Do you just get drunk and hop on the computer. He didnt duck Mosley. Some of his family was killed in Haiti. Remember that? You just hate on whoever you can.

[Hi-Dro]

Do you just get drunk and hop on the computer. He didnt duck Mosley. Some of his family was killed in Haiti. Remember that? You just hate on whoever you can.

drunk? I seldom drink foo. After Floyd taxed Mosley's as.s their was discussions for Berto and Mosley to fight. Berto demanded 50-50 split despite Mosley coming of a succesful PPV against Floyd, which only meant he deserved the bigger split, as---who da **** is Berto? Do u just reply out your as.s?

Hatton hasn't the defense that Kotelnik has, Maidana is dangerous inside he will foul and make it ugly while doing pretty much anything he can to get Ricky off of him to land some bombs.

Ricky will foul to. And he'll do anything to get inside Maidana to (no ho.mo) and make him fight his fight. He's faster, smarter, and more durable. And Maidana is my favorite fighter, so don't think i'm a hater.

[Rick Grimes]

Hatton hasn't the defense that Kotelnik has, Maidana is dangerous inside he will foul and make it ugly while doing pretty much anything he can to get Ricky off of him to land some bombs.

Yep i could see Maidana getting hot headed and fouling and getting a DQ. Hatton would have had every advantage over Maidana apart from power and Hatton wasn't too bad in that department either.

[Spray_resistant]

Ricky will foul to. And he'll do anything to get inside Maidana to (no ho.mo) and make him fight his fight. He's faster, smarter, and more durable. And Maidana is my favorite fighter, so don't think i'm a hater.

Its a FF anyway where we will never find out what would have happened though it would have been a fun fight to watch, back to your point though I feel Vic is underrated based on his 1 Maidana loss which he was doing well in up until he quit but yeah has tools that Collazo who is athletically limited does not.

[Rick Grimes]

Its a FF anyway where we will never find out what would have happened though it would have been a fun fight to watch, back to your point though I feel Vic is underrated based on his 1 Maidana loss which he was doing well in up until he quit but yeah has tools that Collazo who is athletically limited does not.

Ortiz is a very good fighter but he seems to have lapses and lets his opponents back into the fight.