Is Ortiz better the Collazo?

[Hi-Dro]

No! He's not even half as good as Collazo.

so da **** does a win over him do for Berto? It doesn't do ****. So stop hyping this fight up like it means something. It's just another bull**** fight for Berto. I wouldn't be making this thread if he wasn't holding the WW belt hostage. He needs to give it up and move down to 140, since those are the only fighters he will be fighting.

Why not fight Clottey? Marg? Cotto? Berto already ducked Mosley by demanding 50-50 after Mosley was coming of an impressive ppv against Floyd. He has no intentions of fighting anybody worth ****.

[Spray_resistant]

He has more talent than Collazo.

[Hi-Dro]

He has more talent than Collazo.

so? that doesn't make him a better fighter. Collazo arguably beat Hatton. Would Ortiz beat Hatton? No! Hatton would probably stop him, and make him quit.

Ortiz has more talent then Maidana but Maidana made him tap out. Thus, I fail to see your case.

[Spray_resistant]

so? that doesn't make him a better fighter. Collazo arguably beat Hatton. Would Ortiz beat Hatton? No! Hatton would probably stop him, and make him quit.

Ortiz has more talent then Maidana but Maidana made him tap out. Thus, I fail to see your case.

I am just saying that the potential for him to do something Collazo couldn't do is there because of Ortiz's natural talent advantage over Collazo which is present at all times.

Oryiz may just fold up though once hit with some serious Berto power shots, hope I am wrong but I have the impending feeling that this will happen.

[ThoedEssay]

so? that doesn't make him a better fighter. Collazo arguably beat Hatton. Would Ortiz beat Hatton? No! Hatton would probably stop him, and make him quit.

Ortiz has more talent then Maidana but Maidana made him tap out. Thus, I fail to see your case.

not a big fan of ortiz but seriously? hatton? ortiz dropped maidana like 3 fuccen times he would stop that glass chined hatton just look at hattons fight vs lazcano for fuccs sake

[-Antonio-]

He might be. I thought Ortiz beat Peterson, so minus the early loss in his career I think he's only had one setback and that was against a good fighter. I think people are underrating him because of how he quit against Maidana.

He's faster than Collazo and he has more pop. Collazo may be the better boxer/infighter.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Ortiz has the better tools, but Collazo is better, he's showed more heart.

[Hi-Dro]

hatton got rocked once against lascano and now he has a glass jaw? and cuz ortiz dropped maidana (who is not half as good as hatton) he can drop hatton? gtfo

most people don't know **** about boxing-roger mayweather

[Rick Grimes]

not a big fan of ortiz but seriously? hatton? ortiz dropped maidana like 3 fuccen times he would stop that glass chined hatton just look at hattons fight vs lazcano for fuccs sake

I think he's talking about Hatton that still had something left, not the one after he got dismantled by Mayweather.

[Spray_resistant]

hatton got rocked once against lascano and now he has a glass jaw? and cuz ortiz dropped maidana (who is not half as good as hatton) he can drop hatton? gtfo

most people don't know **** about boxing-roger mayweather

IDK what you are basing that on, and yeah I am talking about the best version of Hatton. If he tried is usual game plan its more likely that he gets stopped than beats Maidana.