Why Didnt Pac Ever Test For Other Fights?

[bayareamike]

Why would he do thins voluntarily in his other fights that were only part of negotiations with Floyd? And tell me this TS... What can you do in 7 days before the fight? *****s lack the common sense that you ain't doing JACK**** 7 days before a fight. Even if a person were to take any kind of peds 7 days before, you think it's gonna help? That's just hypothetically speaking and I doubt any fighter that will submit to 7 days osdt will try **** so basically floyds just being a *****.

[jrosales13]

Hasn't it been like 2 years of this Mayweather-Pacquiao back and forth? More information was collected from that, where as this B-Hop-Jean Pascal issue only started 3-4 days ago.

All I'm saying is, from watching B-Hop in the ring, I see nothing that suggests he's on anything. Your making this far too complicating. Even in this thread http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=469612

Public poll, I didn't straight up say "No, B-Hop wouldn't cheat", I felt it was possible but unlikely.

And personally, I think it's insane to be making these Pacquiao-B-Hop comparisons. One has moved up, has quickly matured into the higher weights, brought up his power, is hurting/ knocking out much bigger foes and has had a long list of excuses to refuse OST.

In the bold, what manner? He's not knocking anyone out, he has shitty stamina, but luckily he has the ring smarts to utilize that from 12 rounds, again he does everything at the very minimal. Ask yourself this, if Pascal, Glen Johnson, Chad Dawson had B-Hop-like stamina, where would they be? Really, what has B-Hop showed that would make me skeptical of him?

There has been whispers of Hopkins juicing for 10 years Dom...This not a 3-4 day thing, this is nothing new when it comes to Hopkins. There has been talks about Hopkins 8 years before Floyd-Pac was even thought of.

You trying to judge Pac at what he's doing at 32yrs old, to what Hopkins is doing in his mid 40's. Even if Pac takes ever single PED there is, you think Pac is going to be knocking mofo's out in his mid 40's? You think he will have his high volume in his mid 40's?

What do you mean in what manner could it be helping him? He's an elite fighter is he not? He's an elite fighter in his mid 40's is he not? Where does he rank at LHW at the age of 46? And, you can't see how PED might not be benefiting him?

If it wasn't for PED's he might be shot to ****...How many fighters had the ring smarts of B-hop if not more so. But, yet couldn't compete till their mid 40's? Yet you think is "unlikely" GTFOH.

It is very likely, VERY LIKELY. That any athlete B-Hop, Pac, anybody, is doing PED's. Is very likely, to say is unlikely, especially an athlete that's elite, and had been rumored about juicing for damn near 10 years is F'ing ridiculous. It just shows that it's more agenda driving then anything else.

[Jack Napier]

Because Clottey, Mosley, and Margarito just want to ****in fight and don't care about all the other BS. Unlike Floyd who's always trying to BS somebody.

pretty much
Pac don't get punked

[Doctor_Tenma]

There has been whispers of Hopkins juicing for 10 years Dom...This not a 3-4 day thing, this is nothing new when it comes to Hopkins. There has been talks about Hopkins 8 years before Floyd-Pac was even thought of.

You trying to judge Pac at what he's doing at 32yrs old, to what Hopkins is doing in his mid 40's. Even if Pac takes ever single PED there is, you think Pac is going to be knocking mofo's out in his mid 40's? You think he will have his high volume in his mid 40's?

What do you mean in what manner could it be helping him? He's an elite fighter is he not? He's an elite fighter in his mid 40's is he not? Where does he rank at LHW at the age of 46? And, you can't see how PED might not be benefiting him?

If it wasn't for PED's he might be shot to ****...How many fighters had the ring smarts of B-hop if not more so. But, yet couldn't compete till their mid 40's? Yet you think is "unlikely" GTFOH.

It is very likely, VERY LIKELY. That any athlete B-Hop, Pac, anybody, is doing PED's. Is very likely, to say is unlikely, especially an athlete that's elite, and had been rumored about juicing for damn near 10 years is F'ing ridiculous. It just shows that it's more agenda driving then anything else.

See, now we're going in circles, I'm having a hard time understanding you. All your giving me is "He's in his mid 40s and is elite". Like you don't seem to acknowledge what he brings to the ring. I'm trying to be open minded here, give me something else that would suggest he's on something. I'd like to hear them man. Now I have an agenda? That is so fuckin' childish man, that's not me, clearly you don't know me. Go ahead and put me in with the other haters, I couldn't give two shits man.

Edit: 10 years, it's recently I heard this, IMDAZED brought it up to me via PM. I'll look into that later, unless you have a link. I voted possible but unlikely. Possible, considering the era we live in/ I don't know B-Hop personally. Unlikely, considering what B-Hop brings to the ring. How is that hard to understand?

[horge]

This is a real question so please leave the junk at the door. Those on here who no me no that Im a Floyd fan but Im fair. I can see the argument on both sides but my 1 question is that if Pac agreed to the 14 days and the Floyd fight never happened, then why didnt he use it for his subsequent fights to see if he could get use to it and make the fight happened?

I say this because Pac has fought some good guys in Clottey, Margarito, and now Mosley but lets be real, those guys were never ever going to beat him barring some miracle. Therefore, why not use the 14day cutoff for the Clottey fight, then 7 day cutoff for the Margarito fight, then same day or 2 day cutoff for the Mosley fight and by then Pac is definitely use to the testing and Floyd has no excuse left

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Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights. Again, leave the hate comments at the door and hear some real responses

Okay, I'll play:

If Team Pac was constantly obsessed with trying to own Team Floyd,
then yes... maybe they would've used Clottey or Margs as opportunities
to show Pac was clean. However, I don't think Pac has Floyd on his mind
24/7, or at least to the point of using matches with other fighters to try
to score points vs. Floyd in some court of public opinion.

I also think Pac's irrational mistrust towards giving blood is real.
He'll do it if he has to ... but if he doesn't have to, then he won't.

I agree that testing vs. Clottey or Margs or Shane would have served a
lot of people well: doubters, fans and promoters alike. But then, so would
a Mayweather-Pacquiao match, and that hasn't come to pass either.

[Hi-Dro]

See, now we're going in circles, I'm having a hard time understanding you. All your giving me is "He's in his mid 40s and is elite". Like you don't seem to acknowledge what he brings to the ring. I'm trying to be open minded here, give me something else that would suggest he's on something. I'd like to hear them man. Now I have an agenda? That is so fuckin' childish man, that's not me, clearly you don't know me. Go ahead and put me in with the other haters, I couldn't give two shits man.

Edit: 10 years, it's recently I heard this, IMDAZED brought it up to me via PM. I'll look into that later, unless you have a link. I voted possible but unlikely. Possible, considering the era we live in/ I don't know B-Hop personally. Unlikely, considering what B-Hop brings to the ring. How is that hard to understand?

jro has a PHD in youtubeanomics and is a hardcore gang member of the MS 13. So next time u want to insinuate a poster is childish watch who you're talking to. I bet you don't even have your AA, yet u want to hate.

[2501]

you might could argue that but I do think its a legit thing if you think someone is cheating. He never suspected that of his other opponents but Pac is doing things that you rarely see. He also was at the 1st Morlaes fight so it shocks him to see Pac moving up & crushing guys, not to mentiong his dad & brother are telling him non stop that what Pac is doing is not normal and he has to be on something

so you're saying the possibility of him suspecting Juan Manuel Marquez of juicing because he was jumping 2 weight classes to fight a bigger, faster fighter in Floyd was non existent?

If Floyd should have asked ANYONE for OST, it should have been someone who had all the odds stacked against him like JMM.

[Jack Napier]

so you're saying the possibility of him suspecting Juan Manuel Marquez of juicing because he was jumping 2 weight classes to fight a bigger, faster fighter in Floyd was non existent?

If Floyd should have asked ANYONE for OST, it should have been someone who had all the odds stacked against him like JMM.

what odds?
he was #2 p4p remember? :laugh:

[2501]

what odds?
he was #2 p4p remember? :laugh:

ooh thats right. Forgot that weightclasses aren't relevant if fighters are both on the P4P list haha.

I guess there should be no reason for Floyd not to fight Andre Ward if Ward enters the top 10 then. Floyd did win a title at 154 and thats only 2 classes below 168.

[jellybeans]

Why didn't MAJORITY of the boxers nowadays join the blood test bandwagon? oh right, it's just for the midget.