Why Didnt Pac Ever Test For Other Fights?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Fake OST is better than what we have right now but is also basically useless and no difference from current test if someone really want to juice up. You want better testing? go for real Olympic testing. It's common sense dude. Olympic Games occur every four years only and yet they tested their athletes all year round. You may wonder why and why not do it in Floyd's way, the FAKE 2 months OST? Test the athletes 2 months before the game but you see it doesn't make sense at all and doesn't work in that way to catch the juicer. Specially in Pro boxing if you only fought once a year or twice. You can juice up everyday you want and yet still have plenty of time to cycle it out without any worry someone will knock you door to take your blood. In Pac 52 fights did someone asked Pac to take two months OST because they were scared to death and they can't believe what he did was possible or accused him he was on PED? NO! In Floyd 40 fights did he asked somebody for two months OST or accused someone he was on PED? NO! Did Floyd and Pac took the same test in all their fights in US? Yes and they passed with flying colors! I mean the test is not accurate but Floyd has no problem with it to all his 40 fights not until the fans wanted him to fight Pac. You see, if he did someone managed not to fight Cotto, Williams and Margarito for some reasons you might already know, why can't do the same to Pac? You see, even before the talk started of the possible fight between Pac and Floyd. The Mayweathers already accused Pac was on something like Pac killed their b!tches or possy cat.

[jrosales13]

No not at all, I'd be straight up if I thought B-Hop was on anything, dead ass man. The guy hasn't knocked anyone out since Oscar (If you want to count that), some believe Oscar took a dive, maybe he did maybe he didn't, so one could probably go back as far as 2002. He hasn't shown impressive stamina, does his best to conserve his energy, throws very few punches, he does everything at the very minimal pretty much. His style is to spoil the fight if he has to, hold, get a little dirty. Yeah I acknowledge what he's accomplished at this advanced age, but I'm not all that skeptical of his success.

No matter how hard I try and think about it, I doubt he's on anything. And again, I'm not ruling it out either. Just how I see it.

Then you know what Dom, I like you as a poster, I respect you. But, in this instance you full of **** then.

To give your fighter that you like the benefit of the doubt, but then turn around, and act like it's a ****ing fact that the rival of another one of your favorite fighters is on it...It's not that you think. There is actually no doubt in your mind that Pac is on. But, you doubt B-Hop could be on it? WTF man....

PED's is not magic. Just cuz' you take it doesn't mean you going to knock mofo's out. If B-Hop is using, whatever his using, could be helping him in a different manner. For you not to question him or go hard on him like you do with Pac. Is F'ing ridiculous. Especially considering that there were whispers going around that Hopkins was doping back in 2001. That's damn near 10 years ago man. There has been talks about B-Hop using way before Pac.

Who's to say if B-Hop stop using(assuming that he is of course) that he wouldn't be suffering the same type of shotness that Roy is suffering right now? Maybe he wouldn't be where he's at now if he stop using. Maybe the PED's that he's taking is helping him compete with these young fighters in their prime.

For the record I give B-Hop the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he's using. I truly don't. However, I give Pac he same benefit of the doubt that I give B-Hop. It really bugs when people "pretend" to care about this issue, yet treat every fighter different. Is quite ridiculous.

[jrosales13]

U tried to say its unrealistic for boxers to be tested. Thats why I brought up olympic boxers getting tested.

Not that is unrealistic. But, it's unrealistic to ask fighters and any pro athlete to volunteer to take tests that they don't have to. Because, they won't go out of there way to do so...

Do you understand now?

[jrosales13]

Fake OST is better than what we have right now.

I'm sorry I just stopped reading right here. Because, this was all that was need to be said. And, I agree, "fake OST" is better than what we have right now. So if it's better than nothing. Lets make it happen. Anything else is just bunch of bullshit excuses.

[Hi-Dro]

Then you know what Dom, I like you as a poster, I respect you. But, in this instance you full of **** then.

To give your fighter that you like the benefit of the doubt, but then turn around, and act like it's a ****ing fact that the rival of another one of your favorite fighters is on it...It's not that you think. There is actually no doubt in your mind that Pac is on. But, you doubt B-Hop could be on it? WTF man....

PED's is not magic. Just cuz' you take it doesn't mean you going to knock mofo's out. If B-Hop is using, whatever his using, could be helping him in a different manner. For you not to question him or go hard on him like you do with Pac. Is F'ing ridiculous. Especially considering that there were whispers going around that Hopkins was doping back in 2001. That's damn near 10 years ago man. There has been talks about B-Hop using way before Pac.

Who's to say if B-Hop stop using(assuming that he is of course) that he wouldn't be suffering the same type of shotness that Roy is suffering right now? Maybe he wouldn't be where he's at now if he stop using. Maybe the PED's that he's taking is helping him compete with these young fighters in their prime.

For the record I give B-Hop the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he's using. I truly don't. However, I give Pac he same benefit of the doubt that I give B-Hop. It really bugs when people "pretend" to care about this issue, yet treat every fighter different. Is quite ridiculous.

I was thinking the same ****. ****** as.s Dom. All *****s are contradictory like that. Despite you having a PHD in youtubeanomics I don't think you're qualified enough to challenge these lawyers, ped experts, and bankers JRO.

[jrosales13]

I was thinking the same ****. ****** as.s Dom. All *****s are contradictory like that. Despite you having a PHD in youtubeanomics I don't think you're qualified enough to challenge these lawyers, ped experts, and bankers JRO.

[-The Glove-]

Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights

I'm a PAC fan and I hear where you're coming from. That would've been a good look for PAC to take the tests with his other fights after the whole Floyd situation. You make some good points. Who knows why his camp didn't do that. It might have something to do with them feeling that testing should be left in the hands of the commission, but one can only speculate.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Then you know what Dom, I like you as a poster, I respect you. But, in this instance you full of **** then.

To give your fighter that you like the benefit of the doubt, but then turn around, and act like it's a ****ing fact that the rival of another one of your favorite fighters is on it...It's not that you think. There is actually no doubt in your mind that Pac is on. But, you doubt B-Hop could be on it? WTF man....

PED's is not magic. Just cuz' you take it doesn't mean you going to knock mofo's out. If B-Hop is using, whatever his using, could be helping him in a different manner. For you not to question him or go hard on him like you do with Pac. Is F'ing ridiculous. Especially considering that there were whispers going around that Hopkins was doping back in 2001. That's damn near 10 years ago man. There has been talks about B-Hop using way before Pac.

Who's to say if B-Hop stop using(assuming that he is of course) that he wouldn't be suffering the same type of shotness that Roy is suffering right now? Maybe he wouldn't be where he's at now if he stop using. Maybe the PED's that he's taking is helping him compete with these young fighters in their prime.

For the record I give B-Hop the benefit of the doubt. I don't think he's using. I truly don't. However, I give Pac he same benefit of the doubt that I give B-Hop. It really bugs when people "pretend" to care about this issue, yet treat every fighter different. Is quite ridiculous.

Hasn't it been like 2 years of this Mayweather-Pacquiao back and forth? More information was collected from that, where as this B-Hop-Jean Pascal issue only started 3-4 days ago.

All I'm saying is, from watching B-Hop in the ring, I see nothing that suggests he's on anything. Your making this far too complicating. Even in this thread http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=469612

Public poll, I didn't straight up say "No, B-Hop wouldn't cheat", I felt it was possible but unlikely.

And personally, I think it's insane to be making these Pacquiao-B-Hop comparisons. One has moved up, has quickly matured into the higher weights, brought up his power, is hurting/ knocking out much bigger foes and has had a long list of excuses to refuse OST.

In the bold, what manner? He's not knocking anyone out, he has shitty stamina, but luckily he has the ring smarts to utilize that from 12 rounds, again he does everything at the very minimal. Ask yourself this, if Glen Johnson, Chad Dawson had B-Hop-like stamina, where would they be? Really, what has B-Hop showed that would make me skeptical of him?

[carts]

This is a real question so please leave the junk at the door. Those on here who no me no that Im a Floyd fan but Im fair. I can see the argument on both sides but my 1 question is that if Pac agreed to the 14 days and the Floyd fight never happened, then why didnt he use it for his subsequent fights to see if he could get use to it and make the fight happened?

I say this because Pac has fought some good guys in Clottey, Margarito, and now Mosley but lets be real, those guys were never ever going to beat him barring some miracle. Therefore, why not use the 14day cutoff for the Clottey fight, then 7 day cutoff for the Margarito fight, then same day or 2 day cutoff for the Mosley fight and by then Pac is definitely use to the testing and Floyd has no excuse left.

He wasnt going to lose those fights and they said they would take the 14 days so stick by that and use it against guys you know you can beat. Not only that but it would make the media & public after the Clottey fight say that Pac is doing 14 days right now, why cant Floyd do that and they would say more after other fights.

I just always felt that Roach and those guys shouldve done that, e****ally with him fighting known cheats like Margarito & Mosley. It wouldve been a very good look and Floyd would have nothing to say or nowhere to run. Then the lawsuit also has more legs because Pac is openly testing.

Pac definetly didnt have to do it but my point is that it wouldve left Floyd with nowhere to run and Pac had no real risk of losing those fights. Again, leave the hate comments at the door and hear some real responses

why floyd ducked cotto and margarito instaed of asking them to take OSDT??/

[The Gambler1981]

Since when is "he didn't have to" a real good answer.

I feel you thread starter and I understand perfectly why he didn't but it would have made his point and his stance so much more impressive. I have asked this exact thing before and pretty much got what you got~