Wasted Talent/Underachieving

[JUYJUY]

Because Kevin Rooney stopped training
him and tyson came in at the heaviest
at that time and he wasnt as sharp as
he used to be cuase he changed trainers.
douglas beat a fighter not in his prime.

Exactly, Toney beat a fighter not at his best too.

[Run]

douglas beat a fighter not in his prime.

No.

Douglas beat a fighter in the peak middle of his prime.



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[Mike Tyson Jr.]

No.

Douglas beat a fighter in the peak middle of his prime.

nope, 1989 wss the last year of
tysons prime. 1990 was not. 1990
he was not trained by kevin rooney
and loss his hunger.

[Parodius]

Michael Nunn was a great boxer. The way he used the ropes for defense was amazing. But Toney was the first person to beat him. Losing to Toney at that time is no shame. Toney was not out of shape in that fight, like the way he was with Jones. Nunn was actually winning the fight, until Toney caught him. Michael Nunn would've beat the Toney that fought Jones any day.

[Run]

nope, 1989 wss the last year of
tysons prime. 1990 was not. 1990
he was not trained by kevin rooney
and loss his hunger.

Really?

Thats why Tyson beat Ruddock, Seldon, and Bruno right after losing to Douglas?



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[JUYJUY]

nope, 1989 wss the last year of
tysons prime. 1990 was not. 1990
he was not trained by kevin rooney
and loss his hunger.

Tyson wasn't at his best anymore by 89, Tyson's career ended June 88.

Not many people realise when Tyson's peak was, it was four or five fights before Spinks.

[theironone]

"he was good but not great" Exactly, he wasn't great and that's the whole point of this thread. But he was better than those who were greater than him. You only have to watch Nunn in his early career to see what talent he had, he was so quick and slick and looked impossible to beat. It's hard to put many fighters in that class based on how quick and slick he obviously was before drugs got him. He was better than Roy Jones.

I disagree i think jones would of whupped him, id class tyson as a wasted talent too, and douglas beat him jr because he was ready and mike wasnt but whos fault is that, if a fighter has outside distractions whether its women, drugs, alcohol family issues, whatever if they step into the ring and get beat by someone generally not percieved to be as good then its their own fault they should knuckle down and put right what was wrong, tyson never did that and it bugs me to death that he was incapable of avenging one loss

[Parodius]

No.

Douglas beat a fighter in the peak middle of his prime.

Not true. That was the partying Tyson going through alot of **** in his personal life. Tyson never trained for the douglas fight, just look at his entrance, it tells the whole story. Tyson never look like that before.

[jabsRstiff]

james Toney swept the fight from round seven until he KO'd Nunn.

Please....watch the fight again. By the 7th round....Nunn starting eating big-time right hands, while getting NOTHING done of his own. It got worse & worse for him as the fight went on.
Truthfully, James Toney destroyed Michael Nunn.

Nunn was a very slick guy...but he tended to slap, kept his chin in the air too much....& had an arroagnce about him that ventured into laziness.
He's one of the biggest punks in boxing history, & I loved it when Toney ****D him.

[JUYJUY]

I disagree i think jones would of whupped him,

I don't, I think Nunn of 87/88 beats Jones every single time.