PEDs,Steroids or whatever else Don't win fights!!

[yeykax]

[QUOTE=pbmike;10298951]this gotta be a joke...? the whole purpose of p.e.d is to make you better its in the name... just so happen vargas ****** just think what would of happen if he didnt take p.e.d never thought of


I don't think you understood All I'm saying is that it doesn't matter if you used them or not.It's all about the game plan that's why I referred about the Vargas fight Delahoya beat him while he used steroids !!

[tomhawq]

Pacfan one question. Are you personally against better testing? If your are was that after or before you learned Manny was against it.

no. like i said, pac has agreed to the test. it comes from his own mouth. all floyd has to do is pick up the phone and confirm it, that is if he is really interested. don't you agree?

[check hook]

Agree, this is like the only sport where PEDs don't help, people need to understand that!

Actually they do help.......they help in every sport, that's why they are banned. The literature on PED use in sport is very clear......they are called performance enhancers for a reason.....they enhance performance.

Doesn't mean you are going to win or it's going to turn you into a master boxer, but they will increase your ability to train more and training more is how you get better, increase stamina, increase power. Just because a fighter because you lose doesn't mean it's right that you lasted 10 rds instead of 5 and you hit the other guy more times than you otherwise could have if clean.

[pbmike]

Actually they do help.......they help in every sport, that's why they are banned. The literature on PED use in sport is very clear......they are called performance enhancers for a reason.....they enhance performance.

Doesn't mean you are going to win or it's going to turn you into a master boxer, but they will increase your ability to train more and training more is how you get better, increase stamina, increase power. Just because a fighter because you lose doesn't mean it's right that you lasted 10 rds instead of 5 and you hit the other guy more times than you otherwise could have if clean.

finally theres someone smart he understands

[yeykax]

gameplan dont mean crap if im stronger faster and have better endurance theres no way u can win let me repeat faster stronger and better endurance this is not chess go play chess if you think gameplan will overcome strength speed and endurance you must of never boxed before

also floyd ingects his wrist so all the pac hater look at your fighter to

My man yes bigger and stronger means something.And I been boxing for 20 years my man.I know what I have seen base on experience and having alot of friends like Jose Cotto ,Luis Collazo,Ivan Calderon they would say the same **** too.And I said almost all the time game plans prevail!!

[MindBat]

Like I said all that is physical and if PED helps all fighters to provide a better fight specially for us then let them use them.But most of the time game plans win!!!

Properly executed game plans win. Yes. And a fighter with great game plan hopped up on the juice or power pellets has a major advantage over someone with just a great game plan.

[littlemac]

no. like i said, pac has agreed to the test. it comes from his own mouth. all floyd has to do is pick up the phone and confirm it, that is if he is really interested. don't you agree?

So then by saying no then you would be on Floyd's side on the testing issue. How did you feel when Manny turned the fight down because he didn't want to insure a fair fight even while given a two weeks grace period?

[puga]

So then by saying no then you would be on Floyd's side on the testing issue. How did you feel when Manny turned the fight down because he didn't want to insure a fair fight even while given a two weeks grace period?

pac did'nt turn down the fight.........he turned down floyd unnececesary bull****t..........what is unfair about uusing the commssion testing ?...

[yeykax]

[QUOTE=MindBat;10299040]Properly executed game plans win. Yes. And a fighter with great game plan hopped up on the juice or power pellets has a major advantage over someone with just a great game

You got me on this one.But all I'm saying it's a brutal sport let them juice up!!

[simpson69]

So how does ped's help pac within 7 days when the training starts to get light shadow boxing mitts etc?