Arum: “.it said Mayweather came back to the Mandelas with a price of $100 Million.."

[champ_kw]

Dude, its not the hate wagon, its the reality wagon.

First off, no, i dont think having it in SA, is a good idea, whats the point? Just keep it in the US.
Of course Mandela would think its a good idea as it will generate money for local areas, like the World Cup. Arum will go with whoever puts up the most money, though you did say "apparently" so you don't know.

Floyd asking for $100m will play its part, yes, as you will need to make that money back, and that will effect ticket prices, but that not the main reason. You said it will likely be in a soccer stadium, how are they going to fill that? Are you expecting fans to flying over to see it dropping at least $1500? Or the locals will be able to fill it. Plus take into account the time difference for the US audience.
The reference you made with Lewis you are forgetting that he is British, lots of his fans were consistently travelling from the U.K to see him, he has that backdrop, plus i dont think it was held in a soccer stadium either. what was the capacity?

Also how is Floyd stating fans do not pay his bills the obvious?

First off, u keep lambasting Floyd but sweeping Arum's decision making under the rug. "Arum will go with whoever puts up the most money." So it's good for the goose but not the gander, huh? And again, Mandela's people approached Floyd, not the other way around. You're looking for every angle to crap on Floyd demanding $100 million, that u can't see the forest from the trees. Have u ever been to Vegas for a huge fight? I'm not a baller at all, but flight and accommodations plus the tickets can easily push your weekend spending upwards of 3-5 grand. Now all of a sudden $1500 will keep people from flying over and the biggest fight in PPV history will be left for the locals to fill the arena?? And stop using Lennox's nationality as an excuse for a fight against Rahman did well in S. Africa. Lennox wasn't "Ricky Hatton". What traveling British contingient do u speak of?

And in this country we pay for services, entertainment, etc. Just cause u pay to watch Floyd fight doesn't mean u pay his bills. He owes me, u, or any other fan or enemy anything. Stop acting like its new or something. Try getting Pac to make an appearance at an event and see if he "cares" about his fans "who pay his bills" and show up for free. He won't. It'll be a paid event. If Floyd voices it, its not a slap in my face cause I have perspective on what he provides me....entertainment inside the squared circle. Nothing more, nothing else.

[Mr. President]

Thats nice. Now you cant blame Manny for their fight taking place. Obviously floyd has been decommissioned.

Manny had his chance to make this fight happen. He turned down a 14 day in advance drug test knowing Floyd was on the verge of hanging up the gloves, and now Floyd has moved onto bigger and better things.

While Manny's training to fight yet another one of Floyd's scraps that he's already beaten in another meaningless fight, Floyd was recently spotted on a yacht in Hawaii with his new model wife and sitting courtside at the Lakers game.

Point being, he's already rode off into the sunset and is bigger than the petty politics of boxing at this point. If the fight doesnt materialize it's Manny's loss.

[shogunn]

Manny had his chance to make this fight happen. He turned down a 14 day in advance drug test knowing Floyd was on the verge of hanging up the gloves, and now Floyd has moved onto bigger and better things.

While Manny's training to fight yet another one of Floyd's scraps that he's already beaten in another meaningless fight, Floyd was recently spotted on a yacht in Hawaii with his new model wife and sitting courtside at the Lakers game.

Point being, he's already rode off into the sunset and is bigger than the petty politics of boxing at this point. If the fight doesnt materialize it's Manny's loss.

Its not about drug tests anymore, If Floyd really wanted to prove he wanted the fight with Manny he wouldn't have gone on vacation. The drug tests at this point and always were a sham.

If the fight doesnt happen its floyds loss. His own country is rallying behind a foreigner and calling him a *****, haha. He said he doesnt like how his country turned against him, and then proceeded to call Manny a media creation. Im assuming he meant a US media creation, in Mannys favor of course.

He may be in the Ba***** getting oiled up by Ellerbe, but ESPN and the rest of the media calling him a ***** and a coward bothers him. He wouldn't be going on random talk shows trying to defend himself if it didn't.

[JulVal]

Funny how everytime a Pac fight is around the corner we see Arum talking and making more statements about Mayweather than Team Mayweather themselves, And oh yeah "THE TEXT HAS BEEN DELETED" the irony of BOB ARUM.

Dude, it says on the article that the text hasn't been deleted. Just so you know.

[straightleft]

Once again the *****s are scrambling to defend their coward queen. Arum can lie if he wants but he mentioned several or 10 people including Mandela's daughter Zindzi and Michael Lodge who can deny this if Arum was indeed lying. The fact that this $100m news has been floating in the air for quite sometimes now, Floyd himself or any of his team member never deny it. So it must be true.

[RSBonos]

*****s need to do some serious soul searching...

[Slick_Rick]

First off, u keep lambasting Floyd but sweeping Arum's decision making under the rug. "Arum will go with whoever puts up the most money." So it's good for the goose but not the gander, huh? And again, Mandela's people approached Floyd, not the other way around. You're looking for every angle to crap on Floyd demanding $100 million, that u can't see the forest from the trees. Have u ever been to Vegas for a huge fight? I'm not a baller at all, but flight and accommodations plus the tickets can easily push your weekend spending upwards of 3-5 grand. Now all of a sudden $1500 will keep people from flying over and the biggest fight in PPV history will be left for the locals to fill the arena?? And stop using Lennox's nationality as an excuse for a fight against Rahman did well in S. Africa. Lennox wasn't "Ricky Hatton". What traveling British contingient do u speak of?

And in this country we pay for services, entertainment, etc. Just cause u pay to watch Floyd fight doesn't mean u pay his bills. He owes me, u, or any other fan or enemy anything. Stop acting like its new or something. Try getting Pac to make an appearance at an event and see if he "cares" about his fans "who pay his bills" and show up for free. He won't. It'll be a paid event. If Floyd voices it, its not a slap in my face cause I have perspective on what he provides me....entertainment inside the squared circle. Nothing more, nothing else.

How is me saying Arum will go with whoever puts up the most money? a blast at Floyd, you do know there are two fighter involved, both need to get paid, not just one. And so what if Mandela approached Floyd, when did i say otherwise?

The only angle I am looking at is the justification for $100m, which I can not see, especially in S.A, in a soccer stadium, I don't even see how you can believe that.

The crowd for Lewis-Rahmen was around 6,000 (not official, only found article for expected).
For the Holyfield fights he managed to bring over 8,000, that might not be Hatton level but that's pretty darn good.

"Just cause u pay to watch Floyd fight doesn't mean u pay his bills"



Yup, i guess he gets it from that money tree in his garden.

[champ_kw]

How is me saying Arum will go with whoever puts up the most money? a blast at Floyd, you do know there are two fighter involved, both need to get paid, not just one. And so what if Mandela approached Floyd, when did i say otherwise?

The only angle I am looking at is the justification for $100m, which I can not see, especially in S.A, in a soccer stadium, I don't even see how you can believe that.

The crowd for Lewis-Rahmen was around 6,000 (not official, only found article for expected).
For the Holyfield fights he managed to bring over 8,000, that might not be Hatton level but that's pretty darn good.

"Just cause u pay to watch Floyd fight doesn't mean u pay his bills"



Yup, i guess he gets it from that money tree in his garden.

You're missing the premise of our entire dialogue. Manny and Floyd are not peers when it comes to dividing the money. Mayweather Promotions (owned by Floyd) is Top Ranks peer when it comes to how the money is divided. You know, I know, and Arum knows Top Rank is set to pocket well over $100 million for this fight. The argument only becomes jaded because Floyd is also wearing a Promoter hat. Mayweather Promotions need to see the same financial windfall as Top Rank does for this fight. I bet if King got involved Arum wouldn't balk at King stating he need to pocket $100 million. It's all relative when u stop looking at Floyd like he's a contracted fighter fighting for a percentage of his purses ala Manny. Oscar got smart to the game and fought under his own umbrella pocketing $20 million whenever he gets off the coach plus the financial windfall from being the promoter. Its funny how no one is even questioning how much Arum is seeking to make from this fight for doing absolutly nothing. This fight sells itself.

The employee mentality got u misconstruing Floyd's statement. Nobody is giving Floyd money ala a parent does with a child. He EARNS his money. Therefore, nobody can tell him what to do. Unless your a fan of being paid for ur services and then have ur boss tell u not to buy a beer or tell u which stock to invest in. Stop being shortsighted. This fight will make close to $250-300 million easily. I bet Arum get more than $100 million of it...I guess its only a problem when Floyd ask for parity for his promotional umbrella too.

[ThePrince]

You're missing the premise of our entire dialogue. Manny and Floyd are not peers when it comes to dividing the money. Mayweather Promotions (owned by Floyd) is Top Ranks peer when it comes to how the money is divided. You know, I know, and Arum knows Top Rank is set to pocket well over $100 million for this fight. The argument only becomes jaded because Floyd is also wearing a Promoter hat. Mayweather Promotions need to see the same financial windfall as Top Rank does for this fight. I bet if King got involved Arum wouldn't balk at King stating he need to pocket $100 million. It's all relative when u stop looking at Floyd like he's a contracted fighter fighting for a percentage of his purses ala Manny. Oscar got smart to the game and fought under his own umbrella pocketing $20 million whenever he gets off the coach plus the financial windfall from being the promoter. Its funny how no one is even questioning how much Arum is seeking to make from this fight for doing absolutly nothing. This fight sells itself.

The employee mentality got u misconstruing Floyd's statement. Nobody is giving Floyd money ala a parent does with a child. He EARNS his money. Therefore, nobody can tell him what to do. Unless your a fan of being paid for ur services and then have ur boss tell u not to buy a beer or tell u which stock to invest in. Stop being shortsighted. This fight will make close to $250-300 million easily. I bet Arum get more than $100 million of it...I guess its only a problem when Floyd ask for parity for his promotional umbrella too.

Man, all that typing and nothing but absolute bull****.

If 'Mayweather Promotions' is entitled to a $100 million share, than so is MP Promotions which co-promotes all Pacquiao fights with Top Rank.

Don't compare Oscar to Floyd, Golden Boy has the ability to stage fight cards on it's own, Mayweather Promotions does not which is why they pay Oscar and maybe King in the future to make fights.

[Slick_Rick]

You're missing the premise of our entire dialogue. Manny and Floyd are not peers when it comes to dividing the money. Mayweather Promotions (owned by Floyd) is Top Ranks peer when it comes to how the money is divided. You know, I know, and Arum knows Top Rank is set to pocket well over $100 million for this fight. The argument only becomes jaded because Floyd is also wearing a Promoter hat. Mayweather Promotions need to see the same financial windfall as Top Rank does for this fight. I bet if King got involved Arum wouldn't balk at King stating he need to pocket $100 million. It's all relative when u stop looking at Floyd like he's a contracted fighter fighting for a percentage of his purses ala Manny. Oscar got smart to the game and fought under his own umbrella pocketing $20 million whenever he gets off the coach plus the financial windfall from being the promoter. Its funny how no one is even questioning how much Arum is seeking to make from this fight for doing absolutly nothing. This fight sells itself.

The employee mentality got u misconstruing Floyd's statement. Nobody is giving Floyd money ala a parent does with a child. He EARNS his money. Therefore, nobody can tell him what to do. Unless your a fan of being paid for ur services and then have ur boss tell u not to buy a beer or tell u which stock to invest in. Stop being shortsighted. This fight will make close to $250-300 million easily. I bet Arum get more than $100 million of it...I guess its only a problem when Floyd ask for parity for his promotional umbrella too.

Ok, lets just back up a little, Oscar earned $52m for his fight with Floyd, with generated revenue of $120m.
And you expect Floyd to double Oscars earning as well as the fight at least doubling the revenue.

Put down your crackpipe.