So Floyd is a coward, Yet Manny straight up ducked Juan Diaz?

[Gutz]

ohh no .. another dumb TS..


and he a *****..

[puga]

Sad. Really sad when boxing fans make posts like this. Raheem had just drubbed Morales in 12 one-sided rounds. Why wouldn't you have wanted to see him fight Manny?

becuase raheem lost his next fight.......had pac fought raheem, he would've got crucified for it...

[SpitBalla]

Leave Martinez out of this. I am curious as to why you don't say the same about Pac for fighting Clottey, Marg and now Mosley? Does Pac care about challenging himself and his fans?

Is it ok for Pac because he made history, even if in doing so he made a complete mockery of the sport by winning the 154 lb title at 150 lbs against a fighter who was 1-1at the weight?

Look anyone can perform mental gymnastics to prove a point.

Clottey and Marg were very good fights. Not the best fights possible, but very good on paper. Marg in particular outweighed Pac severly. Theres a reason Floyd ducked him back in the day. Granted Marg was not as good anymore, but still quite dangerous considering the size advantage. These fights are among good or great fights.

We can go back and forth all day. But you're simply being willfully ignorant.

You cannot seriously compare Pacquiaos resume to Floyds in the last 4 years. FACT.

Basically what all you Floyd fans are saying is, " Since Pac has fought some easier fights, its okay for FLoyd to ONLY fight easy." WHich is just idiotic, and its not a defense at all.

How in gods name can you defend FLoyd fighting only 3 times if this Spada thing works out, and all three being such pathetic fights??? You're just being blind.

[brick wall]

Brick:

I get your point. But you have to see the BS. It like the guy who hates on Kobe or AI for shooting too much but celebrates Jimmer Fredette from BYU when he does it. See what I'm saying.

Floyd spafa is a BS fight designed to make floyd some easy change. Thats no different from Pac Mosley. Anyone who says otherwise is full of ****.

lol i can't see the connection of what you're saying to what i posted so whatever.

[| THE KING |]

ducked juan diaz?! it's come to this?

[brick wall]

pac would not be where he is today if he fought the zahir raheems, juan diazes and nate campbells instead of dela hoya, hatton and cotto.

[SpitBalla]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn View Post
Brick:

I get your point. But you have to see the BS. It like the guy who hates on Kobe or AI for shooting too much but celebrates Jimmer Fredette from BYU when he does it. See what I'm saying.

Floyd spafa is a BS fight designed to make floyd some easy change. Thats no different from Pac Mosley. Anyone who says otherwise is full of ****.

Wow, you are really obtuse.

So since Pac has this one easy fight, even though all his other ones are good or great, this somehow validates Floyd only fighting easy fights post 2007???? This is such a bloody idiotic sentiment.

How does one easy fight that Pac is going to have with Shane somehow shield Floyd from the fact all his fights for the last 4 years are pathetic and too few? And that Spadafora presents a new low for Floyd and his ducking ways.

This is such a ******ed line of thinking, and it just shows how desperate Floyd fans are becoming in his defense that they will bring up every irrelevant excuse.

[Alibata]

pac would not be where he is today if he fought the zahir raheems, juan diazes and nate campbells instead of dela hoya, hatton and cotto.

Suits the *****s real well. The *****s would rather Pac not be here then Maybe floyd would not be on vacation right now.

[The Big Dunn]

Look anyone can perform mental gymnastics to prove a point.

Clottey and Marg were very good fights. Not the best fights possible, but very good on paper. Marg in particular outweighed Pac severly. Theres a reason Floyd ducked him back in the day. Granted Marg was not as good anymore, but still quite dangerous considering the size advantage. These fights are among good or great fights.

We can go back and forth all day. But you're simply being willfully ignorant.

You cannot seriously compare Pacquiaos resume to Floyds in the last 4 years. FACT.

Basically what all you Floyd fans are saying is, " Since Pac has fought some easier fights, its okay for FLoyd to ONLY fight easy." WHich is just idiotic, and its not a defense at all.

How in gods name can you defend FLoyd fighting only 3 times if this Spada thing works out, and all three being such pathetic fights??? You're just being blind.

The only people who thought those fights were good on paper were Pac fans like yourself. If you are a true boxing fan you know that beating a bigger opponent that isn't as skilled is not that impressive. I could have used the same logic for Floyd ODH, but its not about defending floyd. BTW, Manny's odds vs clottey and Margs were significantly greater than floyd JMM or floyd Mosley. So while you think floyds were easier the bookmakers didn't. Again I ask, could you be wrong?

I am simply arguing that both men are doing the same thing, its just that you like manny so you see it differently.

Floyd and Manny are on 2 different levels the last 4 years. As for their resumes, they have ODH, HAtton, JMM, and Mosley (come may) in common. Does it matter that floyd beat 3 of them FIRST and beat JMM by a larger margin than Manny? Your "better" resume comes down to Cotto, except you would never hold it against Manny that he fought him at 145.

Posters like you always run with the "defend floyd" stuff because your arguments hold no water. I am not defending floyd. I am asking you why you don't hold manny to the same standard. Respectfully, "because he fights more often" is a BS excuse.

So if floyd fought 3 times a year he could fight guys who have no chance to beat him that would be ok for you? I highly doubt that.

[The Big Dunn]

pac would not be where he is today if he fought the zahir raheems, juan diazes and nate campbells instead of dela hoya, hatton and cotto.

niether would floyd brick wall if he didnt fight castillo, corrales, odh