Comments Thread For: Ivan Calderon: Puerto Rico's 'Iron Boy' is Not Done Yet

[ny123]

154 was Titos best weight by far. If u feel he was best at 147 u are in the minority and fightinmg Hopkins at 160 would further solidify my point because that is even farther from 147 than the Winky fight. The fact that he asked for a rematch with hopkins and not Wright tells you that he felt he had a better chance to beat hopkins than Winky.

It tells me that Tito knew the Hopkins fight was his first loss and the more profitable fight nothing more. How does me thinking that Tito was at his best at 147 solidify your point when Hopkins would be the bigger man then Winky?

[JmH Reborn]

Cotto is a good boxer but since the Margarito fight he got away from that. I do see Steward trying to bring that back. I don't know if being a boxer 1st is always the best course of action. Depends on your strengths. Tito and Chavez Sr. Had great careers as brawlers. Brandon Rios had his way against "boxers" like Acosta and Peterson. Segura took Calderon's legs away by brawling. It all depends and being that Cotto is almost done and Juanma is getting the torch I see more brawlers coming out of PR.


Cotto loses and loses badly to Martinez or Pacquiao. Those aren't good looks for him at all. Once Cotto starts to fight going backwards he is done.

I believe a boxer for the most part always beats a brawler. Sure you get the occasional Calderon/Segura fight, but I think if the fight was staged when Calderon was more in his prime, like 3-4 years ago, he would have toyed with Segura for 12 rounds.

In regards to Rios, those guys are good, but right now Rios is just a young pitbull who will outlast and outgun older and less elite fighters. I'll be interested when he steps up to the upper echelon if his style will prevail.

It'll be a sad day though in PR Boxing if JuanMa carries the mantle for too long. He is a KO in waiting.

[killakali]

Sure buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night. I don't like Cintron, and I don't like Calderon. I may respect him for his accomplishments, but I don't really care for his fights. I think he's been done since the Mayol fights, maybe even before.

I appreciate boxing for what is is, but I don't glorify pure prawlers in the way some people do, that is all. they may be exciting to watch, as fighters, but this is boxing, not street fighting.

Brawling can work in boxing buddy. That is why there are different styles. Mayorga over Forrest comes to mind. Vargas over Winky. Brandon Rios over acosta and Peterson. Segura over Calderon. We can name many examples of boxers outclassing brawlers as well. Its not the style. Its the heart brains and determination as well. Plus the ability to incorporate those styles

[killakali]

I believe a boxer for the most part always beats a brawler. Sure you get the occasional Calderon/Segura fight, but I think if the fight was staged when Calderon was more in his prime, like 3-4 years ago, he would have toyed with Segura for 12 rounds.

In regards to Rios, those guys are good, but right now Rios is just a young pitbull who will outlast and outgun older and less elite fighters. I'll be interested when he steps up to the upper echelon if his style will prevail.

It'll be a sad day though in PR Boxing if JuanMa carries the mantle for too long. He is a KO in waiting.

Look at Rios. He beat Acosta a champ who was one of the top 4-5 guys in the division
Who at 135 would beat him? Miguel Vazquez is a boxer puncher champ but I see Rios walking through him. Juan Manuel Marquez at 38 may be too old. Rios gives him hell. Only guy because of height ank skill at 135 I could see giving Rios trouble is Robert Guerrero. To me its a 50-50 fight. Rios is too strong and big for the rest of the division.

Fernando Vargad beat Winky who specialized on beating brawlers. Go back in history. Jake LaMotta gave Sugar Ray Robinson his 1st loss. Rocky Marciano was a brawler. Chavez Sr. Mike Tyson never outboxed anyone. Edwin Valero would have beaten many pure boxers. I agree that boxers beat brawlers more often than not but its hardly set in stone.

[The Underboss]

the name 'Iron Boy' doesn't suit him anymore.

[ricky1978]

WHy do you roaches hate on the little guy so much? Calde fights much bigger opponents, he has no pop yet he can't get a break from you mongols.

Bunch of hating, inferior complex, having ass mojados. That's why no one likes your smelly ass, smelling like spit and ****.

To the ***er that said "mexicans are everywhere".Damn right and that's why this country is ***ed, bunch of illegals breaking the law, sneaking to the country and demanding their rights. ***ers are just mad because the U.S (mexicacas papi) took your lands and and sent you guys packing south of the border to eat beans wrapped in tortillas.

damn, LMAO!!!!

[ricky1978]

I believe a boxer for the most part always beats a brawler. Sure you get the occasional Calderon/Segura fight, but I think if the fight was staged when Calderon was more in his prime, like 3-4 years ago, he would have toyed with Segura for 12 rounds.

In regards to Rios, those guys are good, but right now Rios is just a young pitbull who will outlast and outgun older and less elite fighters. I'll be interested when he steps up to the upper echelon if his style will prevail.

It'll be a sad day though in PR Boxing if JuanMa carries the mantle for too long. He is a KO in waiting.

I agree....

[ShoulderRoll]

It's interesting to me that Calderon wants to stand and trade a little more this time, as he feels that just scoring points and moving isn't going to keep Segura off of him.

We'll see if that strategy works but Mexican fighters in general WANT you to stop moving and exchange punches with them. The more times this happens the more Calderon plays into Segura's hands.

[microMXL]

wrong gameplan for Calderon if he wants to brawl

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Look at Rios. He beat Acosta a champ who was one of the top 4-5 guys in the division
Who at 135 would beat him? Miguel Vazquez is a boxer puncher champ but I see Rios walking through him. Juan Manuel Marquez at 38 may be too old. Rios gives him hell. Only guy because of height ank skill at 135 I could see giving Rios trouble is Robert Guerrero. To me its a 50-50 fight. Rios is too strong and big for the rest of the division.

Fernando Vargad beat Winky who specialized on beating brawlers. Go back in history. Jake LaMotta gave Sugar Ray Robinson his 1st loss. Rocky Marciano was a brawler. Chavez Sr. Mike Tyson never outboxed anyone. Edwin Valero would have beaten many pure boxers. I agree that boxers beat brawlers more often than not but its hardly set in stone.

Vargas, Chavez sr. and Mike Tyson were NOT brawlers. I hate when boxing fans say this because it isn't true.

Just because you don't have the boxing ability of Sugar Ray Leonard, doesn't mean you are a brawler.

Vargas had an extensive amateur career, Mike Tyson's head movement and combination of punches was that of someone well schooled in the art of boxing and Chavez Sr. was a surgeon in his accuracy and counter shots.

I agree though, I think Calderon in his prime beats Segura but he's not in his prime so that's a moot point.

Calderon is going to get KO'd even faster than before because Segura is going to be in his back yard and he will pressure even more than the first fight.