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  • Big Lou
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    #11
    You guys are so short sighted and easily confused. Cunningham clearly admits to several execution flaws by his fighter, but that doesn’t mean that he needs to go into full retreat. Alexander should put the Bradley loss in the category of “I gave away the victory” not “I was dominated” because he was not dominated. Bradley did not hurt Alexander not once with his FIST. NOT ONCE. That’s why Bradley is not getting credit for some spectacular performance. Nine of the ten rounds could have gone either way. Any discussion that places Alexander anywhere, but the top of the 140lb class is crazy. WHY?
    Alexander beat Chop Chop 12 out 12 rounds at age 20……. Maidana had a life or death battle with Chop Chop last year
    Alexander stoped Witter in 8th and Bradley won by split decision
    Alexander knocked a previously unstopped Juan Urango out in the 8th, Berto ran for 12 rounds
    Alexander has the balls to fight Matthysse, a hard hitting puncher with a 95% KO ratio and good boxing skills, while
    Maidana faces senior citizen in Erik Morales and
    Kahn faces a feather fisted no name European Paul McCloskey
    Alexander at 24 is the youngest of the top 140 pounders and every now and then it shows, but he is still “The Great”. All “Greats” face gut-check moments. This next fight is his.

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    • Uncle Rodge
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      #12
      I don’t buy all this from Cunningham.

      I very much get the impression from the way he talks and the reasoning he gives that more than anything, he’s trying to avoid any kind of personal criticism.

      He’s not giving Bradley the credit he deserves for one. He did everything he had to do and took Alexander out of his game.

      So is it didn’t execute the game plan or just simply couldn’t? (because it wasn’t right for the fighter?)

      Alexander’s got mad skills, no denying that but what the Kotelnik and Bradley fights have shown is a weakness when it comes to adapting if he’s not immediately superior.

      Cunningham ‘s either refusing to acknowledge this or he’s basically not good enough to adapt himself. He sends Alexander in with one game plan and one game plan only and it hasn’t worked out.
      The ONLY thing he’s yet to say is I was wrong. I could and should have instructed him better instead of repeating myself in the face of adversary.

      I hope for Alexander’s sake that I’m wrong and this is just a learning curve but I’m really not convinced with Cunningham’s bilge.

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      • BoxingKnowledge
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        #13
        Mattheyes will win big!!

        he will either ko devon or make him quit. Devon doesn't have the heart too dig deep in extreme situations concernig the ring when he's in trouble.

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        • Illdil
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          #14
          this what i dont get why was devon hyped up so much is what i dont understand i mean com on.......the guy only beat URANGO the guy hatton boxed yes hatton boxed him and hatton doesnt even know how to box!! and people all of a sudden put him up there with with the best wow just wow.....devon is skilled boxer everyone knows this he has good speed movement but hes accuracy is not that good he thows like 6 punches and only one lands and even the shots that he throws r all ARM PUNCHES!!!! r u kidding me how the hell r u supposed to hurt your opponent when u r throwing shots with no power in them same goes to timmy except he does get he legs under him sometime but again most of the time ARM PUNCHES!!!

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          • Illdil
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            #15
            IDK mattysse is a very heavy handed fighter with lil boxing ability defencevly is good and throws great power combos specially to that body now how will devon adjust to a guy that puts not reckless pressure but affective pressure and punch preety damn hard!!!??? i know kotelnik was catching devon and mattysse is a better fighter than kotelnik IMO ....IDK devon got hes hands full cuz mattysse is the hardest puncher hes gona face and he better b ready cuz mattysse is a very hungry guy...

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            • SluggerFan
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              #16
              I think Cunningham was spot on in his observations. When Bradley was in Devon's range, Devon refused to pull the trigger. For most of the middle rounds, he just sat back and did nothing. And to the guy who posted above me that 9 of the 10 rounds could have gone either way, what the f**k fight were you watching. Bradley clearly won at least 6 rounds because Devon did nothing but back up and refuse to engage. I don't think it was a great performance by Bradley but I believe he easily won the fight by taking it to Devon. And that's exactly what Cunningham said...

              Regarding this fight between Alexander and Matthysse, I think Lucas spanks him. I agree that Matthysse is like Maidana with better boxing skills. I never thought too much of Urango to begin with, I thought Kotelnik beat Alexander and Timothy Bradley out-willed him. And now Alexander is going into an immediate fight with a puncher? I know he has a big payday on HBO for this but couldn't he have taken a tune-up first. I doubt very highly that Alexander can win this fight but I will definitely watch it if it happens...

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              • Sugar Q
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                #17
                Originally posted by Manny_ate_myDog
                I don’t buy all this from Cunningham.

                I very much get the impression from the way he talks and the reasoning he gives that more than anything, he’s trying to avoid any kind of personal criticism.

                He’s not giving Bradley the credit he deserves for one. He did everything he had to do and took Alexander out of his game.

                So is it didn’t execute the game plan or just simply couldn’t? (because it wasn’t right for the fighter?)

                Alexander’s got mad skills, no denying that but what the Kotelnik and Bradley fights have shown is a weakness when it comes to adapting if he’s not immediately superior.

                Cunningham ‘s either refusing to acknowledge this or he’s basically not good enough to adapt himself. He sends Alexander in with one game plan and one game plan only and it hasn’t worked out.
                The ONLY thing he’s yet to say is I was wrong. I could and should have instructed him better instead of repeating myself in the face of adversary.

                I hope for Alexander’s sake that I’m wrong and this is just a learning curve but I’m really not convinced with Cunningham’s bilge.


                I totally agree with this. What Cunningham needs to be admitting is that Bradley was the better fighter cause it wasn't that Devon just couldn't get off, Bradley wouldn't allow him to so the credit goes to Bradley. Cunningham seems like he's getting caught in the same bag Paul Williams and his trainer are in and it's called "DENIAL".

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                • J Dubb II 330
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Big Lou
                  You guys are so short sighted and easily confused. Cunningham clearly admits to several execution flaws by his fighter, but that doesn’t mean that he needs to go into full retreat. Alexander should put the Bradley loss in the category of “I gave away the victory” not “I was dominated” because he was not dominated. Bradley did not hurt Alexander not once with his FIST. NOT ONCE. That’s why Bradley is not getting credit for some spectacular performance. Nine of the ten rounds could have gone either way. Any discussion that places Alexander anywhere, but the top of the 140lb class is crazy. WHY?
                  Alexander beat Chop Chop 12 out 12 rounds at age 20……. Maidana had a life or death battle with Chop Chop last year
                  Alexander stoped Witter in 8th and Bradley won by split decision
                  Alexander knocked a previously unstopped Juan Urango out in the 8th, Berto ran for 12 rounds
                  Alexander has the balls to fight Matthysse, a hard hitting puncher with a 95% KO ratio and good boxing skills, while
                  Maidana faces senior citizen in Erik Morales and
                  Kahn faces a feather fisted no name European Paul McCloskey
                  Alexander at 24 is the youngest of the top 140 pounders and every now and then it shows, but he is still “The Great”. All “Greats” face gut-check moments. This next fight is his.
                  well said, green k when I can. I was at the actual fight, When Devon engaged he caught Bradley and beat him to the punch, there was times where Devon would let Bradley in, I don't know if he did to try and catch him, but either he wouldn't throw or Bradley smothered him, The fight was closer than it looks, some people need to watch it again with an unbiased eye. my cuz who is the biggest Bradley fan on here and was the fight with me, will tell you it was closer than people and Bradley put on. I still regard Devon as number 2 above Khan.

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                  • starsjuicebar
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                    #19
                    Matthysse could come in better than the Juda fight and be a big problem for Alexander.

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                    • patpatpts
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                      #20
                      devon just wanst ready for tim period. he had that littlefeatherweight helping him out. the one on the canelo vs hatton undercard. i think

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