Should manny try to unify 147 before he retires..it wouldnt be hard at all

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  • .Sakuragi.
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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    I don't get why he isn't fighting Berto now.

    An easy fight Vs. the undefeated #3 ranked WW.

    Berto is hated on these forums, Pac is gonna get no credit for defeating a "bum"

    Also Mosley might be old, no credibility today, but he can generate money

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    • BennyST
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      #22
      Originally posted by Deedubbzz07
      No because every other boxer out there (accordng to Pac haters) who isn't Floyd or Sergio is a bum. Who ever he chooses to fight will be *****ed on by his haters
      Unfortunately in this case many actually are ****ty fighters. The guys he hasn't fought and the guys he has...or certainly not good in a true sense from an historical point of skill. They are just guys who are lucky to be in this era of titles-galore.

      Jan Zaveck is terrible and lost a fight quite recently by nearly every round....yet still managed to get the win on the cards...

      It's more about the division he is in and the other divisions around it. It's really not a good era for 135/147/154 recently. There have been the one or two exceptions but the rest really are poor fighters overall. 140 is the single exception of recent times.....it's funny though but that should be completely normal. It used to be anyway. It's not as if each and every one of those guys are great anyway, they are just better than the **** that's around elsewhere.

      Each and every one of these fighters that people talk about as making up a 'great' division are badly flawed. Maidana has no skill apart from power, Khan is chinny as hell (great to watch though) and gets wobbled by a missed punch, Alexander was a one trick pony with no backup. Bradley is the only good, solid fighter with a range of skill. His only flaw is a slight tendency to wildness and lack of power.

      It's not because people are haters as you say, it's because the divisions are really full of ****. A good division has fighters that pass the test of time: At 140, having Antonio Cervantes as champion, then behind him as contenders Benitez, Locche, Saensek Muangsurin, De Jesus, Hector Thompson, Monroe Brooks, etc etc is a good divisions yet completely normal for then. Today, that would be like a golden division unheard of yet it wasn't even thought about as a good division back then. Just normal.



      Boxing really does suck when you look at it in context right now.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #23
        Originally posted by .Sakuragi.
        Berto is hated on these forums, Pac is gonna get no credit for defeating a "bum"

        Also Mosley might be old, no credibility today, but he can generate money
        Forget this forum, the majority of posters are idiots.

        If Pacqiuao fights Berto, he will fight the #3 ranked fighter and pretty much unify the division. AND it's an easy fight for Manny.

        If Arum can sell Pacqiuao Vs Clottey he can sell Pacqiauo Vs. Berto.

        Make's perfect sense.

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        • ThePrince
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          #24
          Originally posted by LarryX2011
          Who are the title holders besides
          1-berto-wbc
          2-manny-wbo
          Zaveck and Senchenko if I'm not mistaken, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a WBC rhinestone belt or some other bull**** out there.

          But Pac can fight Senchenko and Zaveck but who the hell would pay to see that or even care? Berto, if he really wants a Pac fight, should focus less on Matthew Hatton and more on Senchenko/Zaveck and lure Manny with the promise of a lineal and undisputed WW championship. That would make that fight much more attractive and marketable.

          I honestly don't think Pac would be able to turn his back on the opportunity to gain his record-breaking (his own) 5th lineal championship and undisputed WW crown. The man is in the gold/belt collecting business.

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            #25
            Originally posted by ThePrince
            Zaveck and Senchenko if I'm not mistaken, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a WBC rhinestone belt or some other bull**** out there.

            But Pac can fight Senchenko and Zaveck but who the hell would pay to see that or even care? Berto, if he really wants a Pac fight, should focus less on Matthew Hatton and more on Senchenko/Zaveck and lure Manny with the promise of a lineal and undisputed WW championship. That would make that fight much more attractive and marketable.

            I honestly don't think Pac would be able to turn his back on the opportunity to gain his record-breaking (his own) 5th lineal championship and undisputed WW crown. The man is in the gold/belt collecting business.
            Unless Floyd doesn't fight by May 1st that's not going to happen.

            Unless they fight, of course.

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              #26
              well if pac fights jmm after mosley, he'll be done for this year. so berto vs manny can go down early 2012, maybe by that time berto can get some more solid wins or another belt, who knows...but pac vs berto is possible, id like to see how berto will do in the biggest fight of his life..

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              • Larry the boss
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                #27
                Originally posted by ThePrince
                Zaveck and Senchenko if I'm not mistaken, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a WBC rhinestone belt or some other bull**** out there.

                But Pac can fight Senchenko and Zaveck but who the hell would pay to see that or even care? Berto, if he really wants a Pac fight, should focus less on Matthew Hatton and more on Senchenko/Zaveck and lure Manny with the promise of a lineal and undisputed WW championship. That would make that fight much more attractive and marketable.

                I honestly don't think Pac would be able to turn his back on the opportunity to gain his record-breaking (his own) 5th lineal championship and undisputed WW crown. The man is in the gold/belt collecting business.
                yea but unless floyd retires hes the linear ww champ right now

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Unless Floyd doesn't fight by May 1st that's not going to happen.

                  Unless they fight, of course.
                  those are the ring rules......

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I don't get why he isn't fighting Berto now.

                    An easy fight Vs. the undefeated #3 ranked WW.

                    i think they wanted someone with a bigger name (since it's gonna be promoted to casual fans on cbs)

                    hopefully we can see berto-pac next year.

                    i really would like to see berto get tuned up. don't like the kid at all.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by LarryX2011
                      those are the ring rules......
                      If he doesn't fight by May 1st this year we can presume he won't fight in 2011.

                      The Lineage surely can't be considered Floyds after such a long absence.

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