Comments Thread For: Klitschko: I Knocked Solis Out, The Injury is His Problem!

[Ravens Fan]

Another sport ?



funny you should say that, cause you don't look like a fan of boxing but only a fan of the Klitschkos

you and Choppereead and the others, I only see you in Klitschko related threads

anyway, Solis did lose (I am repeating myself now cause you just don't get it), but it is not because he was knocked out by that punch

Solis lost like Vitali lost years ago against Byrd

Oh no I am busted!! What can I say you figured me out. You are right but also wrong at the same time. I will admit that I am a fan of the heavyweight division and have been since I was a kid watching Ali do his thing. But I have also been a fan of other divisions and fighters as well.

I was a huge fan of Sugar Ray, since he is a home boy. But I lost interest in him when he kept coming out of retirement and fighting for belts in divisions where he had not fought. And I was happy and sad at the same time as I sat ring side and watched Terry Norris put a whooping on him at MSG. And my favorite fighter of all time was the Marvelous One and I still don't believe Ray beat him. And I still pay attention to the lighter weights but not like I did when Whitaker and Camacho, Mancini and Haugen were fighting for free on TV or on HBO etc. And the real reason I lost so much interest can be explained in three words, pay per view.

So, yes I do pay more attention to the heavyweights simply because I usually do not have to pay for anything extra. Fact is I have never paid to watch the Klit bros fight and the last fight I actually paid for was the Cotto-Margacheato fight back in 2008. Simply put I lost interest because of economic reasons and also because there are division ever three or four pounds and you have fighters such as the Pacman winning belts in how many weight divisions yet he has only 14 title fights on his resume. But I have nothing against the Pacman I just have no interest in his career.

I also don't understand how you question how big a fan I am and then you put so much stock into 180 seconds of a fight. A first round which by all accounts is a feeling out round and you talk as if Solis dominated the round. To be fair I just watched the fight twice on You Tube, it only took six minutes. And he may have hit Vitali with four clean shots. I say maybe because it is sometimes hard to tell with Vitali because of how he leans back. Vitali was not hurt nor did he back up or even change his facial expression. And I will also say that no I don't think the punch KOed Solis. But I will say I have no doubt that the punch put him on ***** street. I also believe Solis did what ever he did to his leg when his right leg almost stuck straight out to his side when he went down. And as my Grand ma use to say, "the proof is in the pudding."

Because before the fight started I witnessed Solis stretching by leaning way back and putting all of his weight on his legs and then bouncing on his legs, much like those hunters in Africa, with out any signs of pain or discomfort. So either he is a great actor or the pain pills were pretty potent or he was hurt when he fell and not during training.

And if you are as big a fan as you would want me to believe you would claim, as I did all along, that Solis had no business fighting for the title. Simply because he did not earn the right. And I for one was disappointed with the fight from the start. Because I don't give two craps about what Solis did as an amateur because I know enough about boxing and have been watching it long enough to realize that the difference between pro and amateur boxing is pretty drastic. Especially as compared to twenty or thirty years ago.

I have digressed a bit but I will say that yes I am a big fan of the Klit bros, and this is why. They come to fight in shape they seem to stay in shape when not fighting. They respect the history of the sport and for the better part of the last decade they have, for the most part, fought world class competition. When I say world class only Sosnoski, Biggs and Rahman were not rated in the Rings top ten when they fought. And if the bros weren't around I think we would be seeing the Thompsons, Chambers and the Arreolas of the division trading alphabet belts. And many fans would still be complaining about how bad things are in the division.

In closing I believe the two biggest problems the Klit brothers have is that one they are related and two they are not American. I truly believe if they were white boys from Brooklyn or Nebraska we would not even be having these discussions.

[hugh grant]

Hes a funny guy demanding its a knockout. The fact that he won should be enough. But after seeing the punch, it didnt really seem that hard. Solis isnt chinny like Herbie Hide as well is he?

[Steward]

fight him again, absolute farce.

[reeflegend]

The Circus

This is another B.S. reason why people are getting turned off to boxing. Solis never had a shot, even though he was going to Vitali, you know by watching the fight, this guy was gonna drop. Same thing with the Haye Vs. Harrison fight, an out of shape turd gets a shot at a title. These guys came for the paycheck. It's a knock down, we all know what. But it's dissapointing.

Think about it, We're getting excited for A Klit vs haye match. Who the hell is Haye? lol A guy that wore a t-shirt to a press conference.

It's just sad. Solis was a gold medal winner and had some skill, too bad he's the exact reason why heavyweight division is goin in the ****ter.

[Tiozzo]

Oh no I am busted!! What can I say you figured me out. You are right but also wrong at the same time. I will admit that I am a fan of the heavyweight division and have been since I was a kid watching Ali do his thing. But I have also been a fan of other divisions and fighters as well.

I was a huge fan of Sugar Ray, since he is a home boy. But I lost interest in him when he kept coming out of retirement and fighting for belts in divisions where he had not fought. And I was happy and sad at the same time as I sat ring side and watched Terry Norris put a whooping on him at MSG. And my favorite fighter of all time was the Marvelous One and I still don't believe Ray beat him. And I still pay attention to the lighter weights but not like I did when Whitaker and Camacho, Mancini and Haugen were fighting for free on TV or on HBO etc. And the real reason I lost so much interest can be explained in three words, pay per view.

So, yes I do pay more attention to the heavyweights simply because I usually do not have to pay for anything extra. Fact is I have never paid to watch the Klit bros fight and the last fight I actually paid for was the Cotto-Margacheato fight back in 2008. Simply put I lost interest because of economic reasons and also because there are division ever three or four pounds and you have fighters such as the Pacman winning belts in how many weight divisions yet he has only 14 title fights on his resume. But I have nothing against the Pacman I just have no interest in his career.

I also don't understand how you question how big a fan I am and then you put so much stock into 180 seconds of a fight. A first round which by all accounts is a feeling out round and you talk as if Solis dominated the round. To be fair I just watched the fight twice on You Tube, it only took six minutes. And he may have hit Vitali with four clean shots. I say maybe because it is sometimes hard to tell with Vitali because of how he leans back. Vitali was not hurt nor did he back up or even change his facial expression. And I will also say that no I don't think the punch KOed Solis. But I will say I have no doubt that the punch put him on ***** street. I also believe Solis did what ever he did to his leg when his right leg almost stuck straight out to his side when he went down. And as my Grand ma use to say, "the proof is in the pudding."

Because before the fight started I witnessed Solis stretching by leaning way back and putting all of his weight on his legs and then bouncing on his legs, much like those hunters in Africa, with out any signs of pain or discomfort. So either he is a great actor or the pain pills were pretty potent or he was hurt when he fell and not during training.

And if you are as big a fan as you would want me to believe you would claim, as I did all along, that Solis had no business fighting for the title. Simply because he did not earn the right. And I for one was disappointed with the fight from the start. Because I don't give two craps about what Solis did as an amateur because I know enough about boxing and have been watching it long enough to realize that the difference between pro and amateur boxing is pretty drastic. Especially as compared to twenty or thirty years ago.

I have digressed a bit but I will say that yes I am a big fan of the Klit bros, and this is why. They come to fight in shape they seem to stay in shape when not fighting. They respect the history of the sport and for the better part of the last decade they have, for the most part, fought world class competition. When I say world class only Sosnoski, Biggs and Rahman were not rated in the Rings top ten when they fought. And if the bros weren't around I think we would be seeing the Thompsons, Chambers and the Arreolas of the division trading alphabet belts. And many fans would still be complaining about how bad things are in the division.

In closing I believe the two biggest problems the Klit brothers have is that one they are related and two they are not American. I truly believe if they were white boys from Brooklyn or Nebraska we would not even be having these discussions.

that's one long post

you say you lost interest in lighter classes because of PPV (among other reasons)

just like the Klit fights, you can watch them lighter divisions on Internet for free, and it's no new thing, so I don't see the problem, it seems to be a weak excuse to me

that's no big deal to me though, it's just that you or someone else questionned my interest for the sport when you almost solely only care about 2 fighters


I don't care about the nationality of the bros

though a lot of people here do

I'm not a ********** (?) American

I have no problems with people who like the Klits

I do have a problem with people who like the Klit in a nuthugging, irrational way to the point they just straight out ruin all possible discussion and reject all possible critic

I don't like these 2 fighters, each for different reasons, and it's my right

saying Solis didn't deserve the shot is the most absurd thing to say though

the rankings, as ridiculous as they might be sometimes, are what determine who's the mandatory, and well, it happens that Solis earned his right to fight Vitali

besides, who is there to fight ??? apart from people like Solis, who is there ?

NOBODY

Solis is a much better fight than Briggs, Rahman, K. Johnson or Sosnowski

you say I put too much in 180 seconds
well, Solis showed and did more in 180 seconds than Vitali's last 2 opponents in 24 rounds

the question is ''what could have been?''

if you really like the bros, I have no idea how you can be satisfied with such a disappointing outcome, and just say ''next, fatty will return to the shadows''

none of you have given credit to Solis for a very solid round which I believe he easily won before the fall

all you have done is bashing and discrediting the guy

[Tiozzo]

100% inaccurate. Full stop.

if you can't use arguments to back your ideas and opinions, don't waste your time, the door is to the right

[Gumby McPokey]

Like everyone else who watched the fight, I couldn't believe the punch caused any damage. But if you watch the replay a bunch of times, you notice:
- the punch caught Solis coming in
- it had something behind it (you can clearly hear it land, even though it didn't hit flush)
- it hit him on the head, above and in front of the temple
- his legs were definitely rubbery when he started to step back
- his uninjured left leg buckled first.

The punch was no knockout punch, and who goes down from a punch on the forehead? But Solis was either actually stunned, or was faking being stunned, before his legs went out.

After the fight, Solis looked glad to be out of there. Vitali was angry at having won in a cheap way. That is the complete opposite of the Lewis-Vitali fight, in which Vitali wanted to continue while Lewis was glad to escape with a win.

Solis didn't seem to have anything that would faze Vitali. Sure, he landed a few, but Vitali always lets his opponent land. Sosnowski landed many early, as did Arreola. I don't think there's any point in a rematch. Let's see Solis fight Boytsov or Povetkin or Haye.

[Klitschko2011]

[Ravens Fan]

that's one long post

you say you lost interest in lighter classes because of PPV (among other reasons)

just like the Klit fights, you can watch them lighter divisions on Internet for free, and it's no new thing, so I don't see the problem, it seems to be a weak excuse to me

that's no big deal to me though, it's just that you or someone else questionned my interest for the sport when you almost solely only care about 2 fighters


I don't care about the nationality of the bros

though a lot of people here do

I'm not a ********** (?) American

I have no problems with people who like the Klits

I do have a problem with people who like the Klit in a nuthugging, irrational way to the point they just straight out ruin all possible discussion and reject all possible critic

I don't like these 2 fighters, each for different reasons, and it's my right

saying Solis didn't deserve the shot is the most absurd thing to say though

the rankings, as ridiculous as they might be sometimes, are what determine who's the mandatory, and well, it happens that Solis earned his right to fight Vitali

besides, who is there to fight ??? apart from people like Solis, who is there ?

NOBODY

Solis is a much better fight than Briggs, Rahman, K. Johnson or Sosnowski

you say I put too much in 180 seconds
well, Solis showed and did more in 180 seconds than Vitali's last 2 opponents in 24 rounds

the question is ''what could have been?''

if you really like the bros, I have no idea how you can be satisfied with such a disappointing outcome, and just say ''next, fatty will return to the shadows''

none of you have given credit to Solis for a very solid round which I believe he easily won before the fall

all you have done is bashing and discrediting the guy

What can I say typing is good for my arthritic hands. And you are making statements that I actually never said anything about. Simply because I never stated that I did not watch the lighter divisions. I even watched the Solomon-Hopkins fight on ESPN Friday night. Solomon has no power but he does look like a good prospect. Now back to what I was saying. I said I lost interest in them, and yes I do not watch many pay per view fights. Do you know the difference?

And just so you understand I did not lose interest a few years ago it was a long time ago. And Pay Per View was around long before the internet. And when I was younger I followed just about every division except for the really light fighters because those fights were rarely shown in the US. I also have about twelve boxes of all kinds of boxing mags dating back to about 1980 down in my basement. I also have six Ring Record Books sitting on the shelve to the left of me and about 20,000 fights on VHS tapes down the basement.

Back in the day I also spent half my weekends in Atlantic City. Watching everything from Duran fighting and Mark Breland winning his title to Cooney getting iced by Spinks to ESPN and USA club fights and enjoyed ever bit of it. And I am not saying this to prove to anyone how big a fan I am because in reality I am not nearly as big a fan as I once was. I am only saying it because you are making statements and assuming things when you know nothing about who or what I am. And it was actually the opposite because it was you who questioned if I was a real boxing fan when all I said was maybe you should try watching another sport. But you do have a way of twisting facts.

And as far as the Solis fight is concerned yes he did well and yes it was a close round. My only problem is that you make it sound like he dominated the round when in reality he only landed two or three punches. And if you want to hang your hat on 180 seconds out of a possible 12 round fight be my guest. And if you do don't talk to me about being irrational when clearly you are guilty of being very irrational.

I would also bet good money that you have watched the first round of Vitali's fight against Sanders thousands of times. Wow, this is just a thought, if you watch the first round of that fight 12 times in a row Vitali might lose, and all your dreams will come true. And by the way I liked Sanders.

I also may be off base but the only thing that I can figure is that you are so desperate to see the Klit bros lose, that you will grab onto anything going against them. Even if it was only a few shots landed within a round that the dude eventually got knocked out in.

I know I can be long winded and I apologize. But there are a couple of more items I want to talk about. You seem to focus a lot on Sosnoski. And I will agree he may not have been the best choice. But in my humble opinion here is the difference between Sosnoski and Solis. On one side you have Albert, a pro for twelve years and he was the European champ. He also had close to fifty fights and he came to the fight in shape and poured his heart out and took a beating. I really don't feel as if I need to continue but I will. On the other hand Solis has weighed 270 pounds for his fights and I am sorry but I don't care how gifted he is I have no respect for a fighter who obviously has no respect for the sport, and you can also lump that fat slob Arreola in there with him. And that is why I have much respect for the Klit bros. Because even at 39 Vitali is able to fight at a world class level.

In closing you like to play that "what if" game. And I can relate because I have been playing it since Len Bias died way back in 1986. And this goes back to Solis and his fatness. What if Solis took his career seriously and weighed in about 230 for each of his fights? What if he did not have to lose 20 or 30 pounds before the Vitali fight? Who knows if he had weighed 230 maybe he would not have broken his knee when he fell on it and we would have a new WBC Champ. But I truly think it is pretty simple. Because I believe there is a whole lot more to being a champion than just skill speed and power. And simply put it was not in the cards for him because Solis does not have what it takes.

[Gentso]

Why do people want a rematch if Solis got wobbled from the first clean shot he took from Klitschko? It's obvious he will get KO'd second time around