Comments Thread For: Klitschko: I Knocked Solis Out, The Injury is His Problem!

[BattlingNelson]

Supposedly he had torn ligaments but because it was going to be his biggest payday, he went through with it anyway.

It was fraud, plain and simple.

Hmmm.. Su****ious. Do you think he could go through camp with torn ligaments and why didnt he wear some protective bandage on the knee?

I'm not ready to buy this at all.

[Ravens Fan]

another very long and nostalgic post, I hope you feel better now


now, please, stop that, your words are there, highlighted in one of my previous posts, you said you lost interest in lighter divisions, and you are now mostly interested in the HW division (which doesn't mean you never watch lighter divisions)

The only thing I've assumed about you is that you only cared about the Klits, and by your own admission, I was more right than wrong

I should watch another sport because I want to see the Klits lose ?

I have watched Sanders-Wlad maybe 15 times (only 2 rounds), but no, I haven't watched Sanders-Vitali first round a thousand times, I've watched the whole fight twice and that's it

it was a disappointing performance by Corrie who forgot his gameplan the second he stunned Vitali in the first round

I won't change my mind : despite his weight issues, Solis was a much more worthy opponent than that stiff Sosnowski who never beat anybody and was beat himself by Zuri Lawrence not so long ago

Vitali loves to cherrypick bums, unlike Wlad who is fighting the better opposition

Briggs, Johnson and Sosnowski : all optional defenses, and guess what, all bums

You are a funny guy, and yes I do feel better, at least my hands do, so thanks for your concern, it is rather touching. But I have to ask, please stop what and what words are highlighted where I stated that I don't watch lighter fights? Please show me. I guess you assumed I said it when I did not. But, as I have already stated you are twisting the facts because I never stated anything about not watching anything but Pay Per View.

And again you are assuming things. Because I actually was in a little toss up when Wlad fought Chambers. However, I was not all that upset that Wlad won but I would have been okay with Eddie winning. Simply because he earned his shot the old fashioned was by fighting top ten opponents. And as I have stated I am a fan of the Klit bros and respect them but I really don't think I am a nuthugger. But then again I may be in denial.

You also asked me the following question in jest, I should watch another sport because I want to see the Klits lose? I will admit that I am getting old but I don't remember saying that. What I believe I said was that, and I am paraphrasing myself, you don't seem to be handling the Solis lose very well and therefore you may want to follow another sport. Again you twisted my words.

As far as what I said about the Sanders fight. Well, that was my attempt at a little humor and I guess I failed, or maybe you did not see it. So, oh well and as I have already stated I liked Corrie and was a fan.

And as far as me changing your mind about Solis why would I even attempt to do that? Because you may not believe this but I respect your opinion I just don't agree with it. And with that said I will ask a question that you had asked me. If not for Sosnoski, Briggs or Johnson who was Vitali suppose to fight?

This is why I really don't think I am a nuthugger. Because I had problems with Sosnoski. Briggs I was so so because he still has his power and he was a world champ. As far as Johnson was concerned he was rated by Ring magazine so people with more knowledge then I have thought he was a worthy opponent. I will also ask you another question. If they weren't worthy opponents what made Solis so worthy? Did he ever beat a world class top ten fighter? Has he put his time in by training hard and fighting for years and winning any regional or titles such as the NABF or USBA titles, do they even still exist? I will say in fairness to Solis that I don't care what he did as an amateur and I know many fans do value that.

Just one more question and I promise I am done. You question the worthiness of Vitali's opponents but can you name one champion who has had reigns with multiple defenses who fought nothing but top ten worthy opponents? Did Hopkins or Calzaghe do it? Did Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis do it? The answer would be a resounding no because as much as I wish it was it is not possible.

I apologize because I don't know how to say anything that I feel strongly about with out getting carried away. And in closing I just touched up and added to something you said. I hope you don't mind? Briggs, Johnson and Sosnowski all optional defenses, and SOLIS guess what, all bums. And my opinion is not based so much on his skills as is on the way he carries himself.

[Tiozzo]

You are a funny guy, and yes I do feel better, at least my hands do, so thanks for your concern, it is rather touching. But I have to ask, please stop what and what words are highlighted where I stated that I don't watch lighter fights? Please show me. I guess you assumed I said it when I did not. But, as I have already stated you are twisting the facts because I never stated anything about not watching anything but Pay Per View.

And again you are assuming things. Because I actually was in a little toss up when Wlad fought Chambers. However, I was not all that upset that Wlad won but I would have been okay with Eddie winning. Simply because he earned his shot the old fashioned was by fighting top ten opponents. And as I have stated I am a fan of the Klit bros and respect them but I really don't think I am a nuthugger. But then again I may be in denial.

You also asked me the following question in jest, I should watch another sport because I want to see the Klits lose? I will admit that I am getting old but I don't remember saying that. What I believe I said was that, and I am paraphrasing myself, you don't seem to be handling the Solis lose very well and therefore you may want to follow another sport. Again you twisted my words.

As far as what I said about the Sanders fight. Well, that was my attempt at a little humor and I guess I failed, or maybe you did not see it. So, oh well and as I have already stated I liked Corrie and was a fan.

And as far as me changing your mind about Solis why would I even attempt to do that? Because you may not believe this but I respect your opinion I just don't agree with it. And with that said I will ask a question that you had asked me. If not for Sosnoski, Briggs or Johnson who was Vitali suppose to fight?

This is why I really don't think I am a nuthugger. Because I had problems with Sosnoski. Briggs I was so so because he still has his power and he was a world champ. As far as Johnson was concerned he was rated by Ring magazine so people with more knowledge then I have thought he was a worthy opponent. I will also ask you another question. If they weren't worthy opponents what made Solis so worthy? Did he ever beat a world class top ten fighter? Has he put his time in by training hard and fighting for years and winning any regional or titles such as the NABF or USBA titles, do they even still exist? I will say in fairness to Solis that I don't care what he did as an amateur and I know many fans do value that.

Just one more question and I promise I am done. You question the worthiness of Vitali's opponents but can you name one champion who has had reigns with multiple defenses who fought nothing but top ten worthy opponents? Did Hopkins or Calzaghe do it? Did Larry Holmes or Lennox Lewis do it? The answer would be a resounding no because as much as I wish it was it is not possible.

I apologize because I don't know how to say anything that I feel strongly about with out getting carried away. And in closing I just touched up and added to something you said. I hope you don't mind? Briggs, Johnson and Sosnowski all optional defenses, and SOLIS guess what, all bums. And my opinion is not based so much on his skills as is on the way he carries himself.

Let's just say that maybe your post was not as clear as you thought it was. It's not really my cup of tea to willingly twist the words of people.

And I don't know why you brought up Chambers.

Now, think about this for a second : you spend most of your time here in the Klitschko related threads, or at least, your post trail points towards that. How can you not be a Klit nuthugger when you spend so much energy defending them against what you usually call haters ? I mean, that's not like you're forced to do that in order to be able to enjoy watching the Klits fight. Over-appreciating a fighter and defending him vehemently on forums are the usual signs of nuthugging. A strong emotional bound if you prefer.

Of course, you can tell me the same, that I am a hater for the opposite reasons. I consider myself more to be a harsh critic than a hater since I can back all I say about them, but hey, maybe I am in denial too.

The part about Sanders, I believe it was half joke, half trying to psych me out. That's my take on that.

I don't follow the HW division closely enough to know which contenders are the best. There appear to be quite a few accross the ocean. Maybe he could have fought :

Thompson ?
Boytsov ?
Dimitrenko ?
Toney (LOL) ?


I'm well aware the division is weak, but come on, Briggs ? Sosnowski ?...
Holyfield was more worthy than Briggs and Sosnowski together.

Solis was worthy because despite questionnable dedication and a weak record, he had the talent, the youth, the great AM background, and the mandatory shot.

As for the question about comparing Vitali's reign to the one of the greats... You should not ask which one has consistently fought top 10 fighters, you should ask how many HOFers Vitali has beaten. In other words, top 10 Kevin Johnson isn't worth *****t to Vitali's already poor legacy, and poor Vitali's best win is what, Sanders ? Or Danny Williams ? The greats have all fought softies here and there, but they have fought HOFers and top 10 guys regularly in eras where the overall crop was just so superior.

[boxingking500]

Hmmm.. Su****ious. Do you think he could go through camp with torn ligaments and why didnt he wear some protective bandage on the knee?

I'm not ready to buy this at all.

wow already, battlenelson (klitschko hater) already calling the fight fraud

when are you klitschko-haters are going to give up

[*2TOUGH*]

Lennox Lewis: "I TKO'd him, the cuts are his problem!"

[Mr. Invincible]

You don't have to "threaten" anyone to be an "internet toughguy." Using a disrespectful tone with someone you don't know, and is at a very safe distance, is enough. I seriously doubt you'd walk into a bar, join a conversation and take a nasty tone with a stranger, especially one that looks threatening.

As for rooting for someone from my homeland, place I hail from, etc. What's so unusual about that? Accusing me of that is laughable. Practically every sports fan in the world does it. If you mean that it's clouding my judgement; I don't think so. I've made it very clear, in this thread, and in many others, what I think of Solis and the Klitschko brothers. To sum it up: I think far more of Vitali and Wlad than I do of Odlanier.

We've been debating the Klitschko "KO" of Solis. I think there's merit in both sides of the argument. You choose to believe that Vitali scrambled Solis's brains. I happen to believe the punch caused Odlanier to crouch and injure his leg, causing him to fall. I don't dispute that Vitali deserved to win. But the finish undoubtedly left something to be desired. The same as when Lewis "TKO'd" Klitschko. You think that's foolish? Quite frankly, you're coming off as more foolish, totally ignoring a logical but opposing viewpoint.

I didn't really have any reason to read all your little , I'm sure, 'attempted witty comeback' or anything but I'm sure it was as pitiful as the rest you delude yourself with thinking you are intelligent or something equivelant. I was just saying that I'm sorry your boy got toasted by a punch that wasn't even all that flush or hard. That's hard to swallow and you have made that abundantly clear.

So in the interest of not wasting anyone elses time why don't you just take what I say with a grain of salt. Besides were not in a bar anywhere and I could have easily just called you a bias b*tch and to **** off or I would e-kick your a55 instead of simply saying that you were somehow defending a fighter that wasn't even where you are from in an attempt to degrade a living legend like Vitali.

The funny part of the whole deal is that I don't care if you don't like Vitali, but the subject was about the Solis-Klitschko fights ending, ad you managed to get off subject out of being backed ino a corner, feeling threatened.

[Mr. Invincible]

that would be too long to write, and that is something I have done in the past

to sum it up, it's all about what they do in the ring, how they have handled their careers, AND NOT about their lives outside the ring or their race or nationality

outside the ring, they are true gentlemen, inside, well, another story

Okay, we covered that it's cool not to like their styles and careers, etc, I asked why you don't like them on a personal level, which you clearly don't.

It's unhealthy man. Let it go at some point. The Klitschko's are a merit and shot in the arm to the sport of boxing. If you cannot see that, you aren't a true boxing fan.

[Mr. Invincible]

Supposedly he had torn ligaments but because it was going to be his biggest payday, he went through with it anyway.

It was fraud, plain and simple.

Your theory was shot to hell by the fact that Solis was jumping up and down in the corner getting hyped up for the fight. Hardly a move by a guy who was fearful he may throw his knee back out.

It's pathetic how many people really come on here and try and make it seem like anything other than what it was.

A CLEAN PUNCH THAT HURT SOLIS AND KNOCKED HIM DOWN, INJURING HIM IN THE PROCESS, WHEN THE CENSUS SAYS THE PUNCH SHOULDN"T HAVE EVEN HURT HIM.

Imagine if Vitali did land flush and clean.

Man, oh man. Solis would have pulled a Chambers.

[Mr. Invincible]

Let's just say that maybe your post was not as clear as you thought it was. It's not really my cup of tea to willingly twist the words of people.

And I don't know why you brought up Chambers.

Now, think about this for a second : you spend most of your time here in the Klitschko related threads, or at least, your post trail points towards that. How can you not be a Klit nuthugger when you spend so much energy defending them against what you usually call haters ? I mean, that's not like you're forced to do that in order to be able to enjoy watching the Klits fight. Over-appreciating a fighter and defending him vehemently on forums are the usual signs of nuthugging. A strong emotional bound if you prefer.

Of course, you can tell me the same, that I am a hater for the opposite reasons. I consider myself more to be a harsh critic than a hater since I can back all I say about them, but hey, maybe I am in denial too.

The part about Sanders, I believe it was half joke, half trying to psych me out. That's my take on that.

I don't follow the HW division closely enough to know which contenders are the best. There appear to be quite a few accross the ocean. Maybe he could have fought :

Thompson ?
Boytsov ?
Dimitrenko ?
Toney (LOL) ?


I'm well aware the division is weak, but come on, Briggs ? Sosnowski ?...
Holyfield was more worthy than Briggs and Sosnowski together.

Solis was worthy because despite questionnable dedication and a weak record, he had the talent, the youth, the great AM background, and the mandatory shot.

As for the question about comparing Vitali's reign to the one of the greats... You should not ask which one has consistently fought top 10 fighters, you should ask how many HOFers Vitali has beaten. In other words, top 10 Kevin Johnson isn't worth *****t to Vitali's already poor legacy, and poor Vitali's best win is what, Sanders ? Or Danny Williams ? The greats have all fought softies here and there, but they have fought HOFers and top 10 guys regularly in eras where the overall crop was just so superior.

So, according to this post, Vitali would earn your respect if he went and beat Holyfield and Toney because they are future HOF'rs? Lewis didn't give Vitali the oppritunity to cement his legacy because it was pretty much a forgone conclusion in a rematch that Lewis was in for it, and it wouldn't have lasted long either.

I'm not sure why you think you have to beat HOF'rs to be an ATG. If that were the case, Ken Norton , Buster Douglas and Trevor Berbick would be among the best ever as well.

Your theory just doesn't make sense.

But back on topic, Vitali got another KO to his record against another undefeated gold medalist @ 39 years of age and it was damn impressive.
I'm not too sure what else he has to do in order to prove his brilliance.

You just can't please everyone. It's been that way from day 1 in boxing.

[CubanGuyNYC]

I didn't really have any reason to read all your little , I'm sure, 'attempted witty comeback' or anything but I'm sure it was as pitiful as the rest you delude yourself with thinking you are intelligent or something equivelant. I was just saying that I'm sorry your boy got toasted by a punch that wasn't even all that flush or hard. That's hard to swallow and you have made that abundantly clear.

So in the interest of not wasting anyone elses time why don't you just take what I say with a grain of salt. Besides were not in a bar anywhere and I could have easily just called you a bias b*tch and to **** off or I would e-kick your a55 instead of simply saying that you were somehow defending a fighter that wasn't even where you are from in an attempt to degrade a living legend like Vitali.

The funny part of the whole deal is that I don't care if you don't like Vitali, but the subject was about the Solis-Klitschko fights ending, ad you managed to get off subject out of being backed ino a corner, feeling threatened.

Oh, okay, toughguy.