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  • BrooklynBomber
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    #21
    Originally posted by studentofthegam
    A better question is who was actually real competition? No its easy to see that they (outside of appearing in better shape) have more rounds in them than anyone of the fat heavies they fought. How do you explain a fighter getting tired against them. They are not pressure fighters that throw a bunch of punches. The pace in their fights are usually slow and plodding. And Arreola was fat as hell so what are you talking about? I see You're one of those people who wont be satisfied until I proclaim the Klits the best in history. Not gonna happen so save the silly arguments. Yeah you havent seen any heavies with good physiques because you're probably young and didnt get the chance which is my whole point.

    Yep. the only hopes we have of a real fight is Cruisers jumping up. I like Adamek to give us a good showing with one of the brothers soon.
    Past prime Vitaly threw upwards of 80, sometimes even 100 punches per round, thats arguably better then 99% of other heavyweights in recorded history.
    Wlad's statistic is somewhere around 45-55 punches per round.
    Both are hard punchers, where Wlad might be considered the top 5 biggest punchers in heavyweight history.
    Moreover stylistically their opponents have no choice but to be tired, because of the way klitschkos keep in the center of the ring, always controlling the distance and their opponents have no choice but be beaten or keep moving more then they planned for.
    To say that either fighter has a low workrate would mean that guys like Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather and such of greats dont even come in the ring.

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        • studentofthegam
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          #24
          Originally posted by Pirao
          Lol, so now Solis knee gave out because he's fat, ok... Some of the most ****** people in the world truly post here. I still remember the "Martinez is not white, he's latino" thread, and now this.The worst thing is they don't even realize how dumb they are.
          Its simple and after this we'll decide who's dumb. Solis has probably had some sort of issue with that knee before. As a professional athlete he should take all precautionary measures to nurse it. Coming into a match outweighing a guy who is a half foot taller than you and looks like he actually did a sit up or two is obviously unprofessional and lazy.

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          • studentofthegam
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            #25
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            Outside of Ken, none of them are exactly ripped, and why not you show some other examples from the top ten of 1970s. I mean you can obviously say that the top 3% of heavyweights all time are gonna look in good shape, but not really the rest of them.
            We are talking about the top heavyweights not the average small venue fighter. The problem is exactly that. More and more those run of the mill fighters are in the biggest fights at heavyweight and its pathetic. All those fighters from the past were in better shape and that still supports the argument I have. From the fitness of the bottom half of the HW's from the 90's is better than the the top half of the "best fighters" in the HW's now. It hasnt been that long ago that HW's actually could fight a decent 12 rounds.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Russian Crushin
              Is that what the doctor told Yuri Foreman?

              Stop complaining about fighters weights

              Aesthetically pleasing physique doesnt always mean in best shape. He was a naturally big guy with a big frame and weighed 249 pound. There was no reason he couldnt support 249 pound.
              He is a fatass and 249 is way to high for someone his height, that gut doesn't lie. Who knows what could have happened if he was 220 or 225, but hey if he doesn't care enough to act like a real professional why should we?

              We most likely won't see him again in another world title fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by studentofthegam
                We are talking about the top heavyweights not the average small venue fighter. The problem is exactly that. More and more those run of the mill fighters are in the biggest fights at heavyweight and its pathetic. All those fighters from the past were in better shape and that still supports the argument I have. From the fitness of the bottom half of the HW's from the 90's is better than the the top half of the "best fighters" in the HW's now. It hasnt been that long ago that HW's actually could fight a decent 12 rounds.
                All the top heavyweights of the last 8 years or so have been destroyed by klitschkos and retired as well. Who do we have now who is top?
                Klitschkos - great shape, chiseled physiques
                Haye - great shape
                Adamek -- great shape
                Retired:
                Pre Klitschko Chagaev -also in good shape
                Ibragimov -- good shape
                Brewster - also came in good shape
                Brock - also would come in good shape.
                Hell even Peter when he fought Wlad was in great shape, aesthetically speaking.
                I am sure I did not mention quite a few, but your argument has less validity because your size sample is something like 100 years and mine is 8. When you actually go by sample size of 10 years, you will realize that top ten would always have a few guys that looked really great and most everyone else looked like a weekend warrior gym attender.

                When you work with comparative statistics, you shall see.

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                • Joeyzagz
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                  #28
                  Heavyweight division should be called the Handicapped division. These people arent even athletes just slobs and steroid users with disabilities.

                  Chagaev was infested with Hepetitus B
                  Briggs was a juiced up Asthma patient with a bad arm.
                  Solis was an obese dough-boy with a shotty knee
                  Chambers was a 208 lb midget with a GUT!
                  Holyfield is 2 decades past his prime and still contending
                  Arreola is a LAZY fat ass
                  Tony Thompson picked up boxing a couple years ago and already 40.

                  Its one big freak show!!!

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