Comments Thread For: Marquez: As a Free Agent, I'll Get Pacquiao, I Deserve It!

[don miguel]

I agree, that fight should be at 140.

But no chance of that.

Manny needs every single advantage that he can get over the 38yo midget.

I agree too.

But JMM will accept the fight at 144 even though he knows he will be at a disadvantage. He will risk getting beat up in exchange for a big purse.

Don't blame Manny if JMM accepts the fight at 144 even 147. Nobody is forcing him to do it. Nobody is pointing a gun at him to sign a contract. He could always demand a fight at 140 but he knows it means much less money.

Remember Manny is a midget too. But beat up the big names at WW that's why he is a PPV draw.

If JMM won against Floyd, he will be demanding the terms and manny will be the one begging.

[joelab75]

no BIG disadvantage in weight. Marquez can come in where he is comfortable let say 136 lbs and dont need to dehydrate then come in at 144 lbs on fight night. Pac will weight 146 lbs come fight night. so whats the BIG DISADVANTAGE haters are talking about? ANYONE???

Seriously if you know what you talking about whats the BIG difference? imagine Marquez doesnt have to dehydrate and can come in any weight he is more comfortable? is that what u call big disadvantage?

[{Pito}]

You're one funny guy because your logic doesn't even make sense. So are you saying that if they fight at 135 than PAC will come in at 140. I they fight at 140 than PAC will come in at 145. And if they fight at 147 than PAC will come in at 155. You really sound like you don't even know what you're talking about.

I simply meant the weight limit, how you came up with all the extra from what I said is extraordinary

[KRITKL]

Good for JMM, he deserves one last payday before he retires. The fight would of been a lot better if it was a couple years ago but at least JMM looks like he'as going to get what he's wanted.

[tomhawq]

weight shouldn't be an issue here. don't know why people have become so phukking sissies as if they're the ones who will box. marquez doens't have to come in at 147. just as manny didn't have to weigh in at 150 when he fought margarito. he was 145 and margarito was at 150 at the weigh in. if you're telling me that marquez, who is a fraction of an inch taller than pac, can't do the same then he doens't deserve the fight. it is entirely different when the height difference is huge.

anyways, this fight will surely happen whether you like it or not. the fraud priced himself out again. and as for berto, man that guy can't even mention pac's name. fights with a reluctant fighter in it should never even be mentioned.

[Fearless BONG]

If Mayweather wasn't able to knock Marquez out at WW, I don't think Pacquiao can too. A KD maybe, but Marquez is smart enough not to get KTFO. I think if a third fight gets made, it will be just like the first two, a very inconclusive close fight. Pacquiao is obviously afraid to fight Marquez the third time because he knows Dinamita has his number. Why do people think Pac wants to fight at WW while he can still make JWW? An advantage of course. I doubt a third fight ever gets made.

funny impostor making ****** statement here stating that Pac has an advantage at WW. then if JMM has the balls to fight Pac at WW then do it we want the best fight before Pac close his book in boxing.

[LeadUppercut]

I agree too.

But JMM will accept the fight at 144 even though he knows he will be at a disadvantage. He will risk getting beat up in exchange for a big purse.

Don't blame Manny if JMM accepts the fight at 144 even 147. Nobody is forcing him to do it. Nobody is pointing a gun at him to sign a contract. He could always demand a fight at 140 but he knows it means much less money.

Remember Manny is a midget too. But beat up the big names at WW that's why he is a PPV draw.

If JMM won against Floyd, he will be demanding the terms and manny will be the one begging.

I was starting to agree with you, but then you went off on a tangent, trying to convince me that it was cool simply because JMM accepted.

You do realise that Marquez would fight with one arm tied behind his back to get that payday, right?

Marquez opinion is irrelevant, because he has no leverage at all.

But, what do you think of Manny for exploiting his position and making such an unreasonable demand?

I mean, Manny held a JMW title, and yet he thinks that it wouldn't be "fair" to fight Martinez, so it does surprise me that Manny thinks that it is "fair" for Marquez to jump TWO DIVISIONS to welter..... when according to his coach and trainer Manny is a natural JWW who can easily make 140.

Your thoughts ?

[LeadUppercut]

no BIG disadvantage in weight. Marquez can come in where he is comfortable let say 136 lbs and dont need to dehydrate then come in at 144 lbs on fight night. Pac will weight 146 lbs come fight night. so whats the BIG DISADVANTAGE haters are talking about? ANYONE???

Seriously if you know what you talking about whats the BIG difference? imagine Marquez doesnt have to dehydrate and can come in any weight he is more comfortable? is that what u call big disadvantage?

Your opinion is unknowledgable and biased.

Fight-night weight, or rehydration weight, is irrelevant.

Boxing uses weight divisions for a reason, so lets stick to the official weigh-in. Official weight is much more relevant because the amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you take into a fight is strictly determined at the official weigh-in, rehydration weight is completely irrelevant, and can even be detrimental.

If you notice, boxing scribes / analysts rarely even mention fight-night weight, it is far more accurate to go by the book.

Read this old post, it explains that matter in more detail.....

To all of the posters that know more about Manny's singing prowess than his boxing abilities, this will explain why it is a b1tch move for Manny Pacquiao to fight Juan Manuel Marquez at 147......

Obviously 135 is the limit for Marquez. The Katsidis fight that took place over the weekend, is the first fight where the career-featherweight Marquez has even looked close to being a genuine lightweight.

Clearly, even at 140, Manny would still have a HUGE advantage over the old-age pensioner Marquez..... and Manny can easily make 140.

Immediately prior to the Margarito fight, Freddie Roach and Alex Ariza both stated that Manny was a natural junior welterweight. Ariza said that they simply could not keep any weight on Manny, and that he had to eat 6 meals a day just to remain at welterweight.

Bob Arum's earlier comment that he did not want Manny to "starve" himself to make 143, was an absolute lie, and a total b1tch-move by Team Pacquiao.

Here is proof that Manny Pacquiao can eat "anything on the table" while training for a fight where he weighed in at 144.....
http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...t-middleweight
http://www.strengthspeedagility.com/...aining-program
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ible-physique/
http://www.pacquiao-margarito.com/en...-inner-circle/
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=621958
http://ezinearticles.com/?Boxing-Rin...nce&id=2546429
http://www.pacquiaovsmargarito.net/w...ight-pacquiao/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/g...ment-at-first/
http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...o-inner-circle

Here is the Team Pacquiao lie.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33333

Why did Team Pacquiao lie ?

Manny has a much bigger frame than the career-featherweight Marquez. At 147, Manny will be able to officially build up to 6-7lbs of muscle that Marquez' smaller frame simply cannot support.

The smaller Marquez cannot build anywhere near the same usable muscle-mass that Mannys larger frame can accomodate, let alone maintain that muscle-mass, let alone use that muscle-mass to the point where it directly affects your power.

On a smaller frame it is much more difficult to build usable power without it affecting your speed, and if Marquez does not maintain his speed, then it will turn out to be a bad mis-match.

Even at 140, Juan would only have a small chance against Manny - who would be much faster, and much stronger - and if Marquez does not maintain his speed, then he will have no chance at all, because his skills will not be effective against the faster/stronger Pacquiao.

The posters that are suggesting that the weight would make no difference, are being a little dishonest.

And the posters that are suggesting that the fight-night weights are the same anyway, are confusing water rehydration with usable muscle-mass. I am not an expert on Manny's fight-night weight, nor Juan's for that matter, but you posters that are suggesting there is no difference between the two, are confusing the water re-hydration of Marquez, with the official muscle-mass of Pacquiao.

The point is.....

Freddie Roach and Bob Arum are both well aware that Marquez cannot fight any higher than 135. If the fight was held at 140, then it would be a lightweight against a junior welterweight. But if the fight was held at 147, then it would be a lightweight vs a small welterweight.....

..... WHICH IS WHY THEY LIED !!

[LeadUppercut]

weight shouldn't be an issue here. don't know why people have become so phukking sissies as if they're the ones who will box. marquez doens't have to come in at 147. just as manny didn't have to weigh in at 150 when he fought margarito. he was 145 and margarito was at 150 at the weigh in. if you're telling me that marquez, who is a fraction of an inch taller than pac, can't do the same then he doens't deserve the fight. it is entirely different when the height difference is huge.

anyways, this fight will surely happen whether you like it or not. the fraud priced himself out again. and as for berto, man that guy can't even mention pac's name. fights with a reluctant fighter in it should never even be mentioned.

That is a fairly dishonest - or possibly ignorant - viewpoint buddy.

Read the post above, the big one it should get you up to speed