NEW ESPN P4P Rankings: #1 Pacquiao, #2 Martinez, #3.....

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Mayweathers career is practically over. I have no problem with him being completely off the rankings. What I do have a problem with is Martinez being behind Pacquaio.

[Canelo Phresh]

martinez is the true number 1 but maybe theyll get ir right when he call out marquez at 147 who knows.

[jai mari078]

Jesus what is it with *******s and their revisionist history? Hatton won a welterweight title and was undefeated when Floyd KO'd him.

Mayweather fought DLH at 154 for a legit title (not a vacant catchweight belt). Your boy Pacquiao fought a f****** 147 emaciated version of De La Hoya who had to be medically rehydrated. (little known fact, Pacquiao actually outweighed Oscar on FIGHT NIGHT).

And the Mosley/pacquiao fight is considered garbage because Floyd already had his way with him. Mosley came begging to roach on multiple occasions for a pacman fight, and he was willing to go as low as something ridiculous like 142 or 140 and he still had Team Pacman all shook. Only after Mosley looked bad in his last two fights was Manny willing to fight him.

Look you trying to give Floyd all this credit for beating Oscar but discredit Pac is garbage. I was and still am a big Oscar supporter, but Oscar had not won a meaningful in years. His last big win was against Vargas. Mayorga was tailor made for him, and had nowhere near tyhe skill Oscar had, the fight was a complete mismatch. I followed Oscars entire career. I was a teenager hen Oscar was in the Olymoics and watched his whole career and by the time he fought Floyd he was a shell of his former self, and he still fought him to a split decision. So before y ou start discrediting Pacquiao for this fight, you can't turn around and give Floyd credit like it was some major accomplishment. Before you start yelling ******* this Floyd hater that, I am neither. Once again this is coming from a DeLaHoya fan.

[Chopper417]

Look you trying to give Floyd all this credit for beating Oscar but discredit Pac is garbage. I was and still am a big Oscar supporter, but Oscar had not won a meaningful in years. His last big win was against Vargas. Mayorga was tailor made for him, and had nowhere near tyhe skill Oscar had, the fight was a complete mismatch. I followed Oscars entire career. I was a teenager hen Oscar was in the Olymoics and watched his whole career and by the time he fought Floyd he was a shell of his former self, and he still fought him to a split decision. So before y ou start discrediting Pacquiao for this fight, you can't turn around and give Floyd credit like it was some major accomplishment. Before you start yelling ******* this Floyd hater that, I am neither. Once again this is coming from a DeLaHoya fan.

I agree with everything you say here bro BUT, you're leaving out A LOT of information. I'm not giving Floyd tons of credit for beating Oscar, but Manny vs DLH was literally one of the biggest scams in boxing history and purely a money making fight. DLH hadn't made 147 in over 10 years when he fought Manny, and the Pac camp even had the audacity to put a rehydration limit on his weight. He came in on fight night at 147. Pac actually weighed more than him in the ring at 148. This is a COMPLETE JOKE. They didn't give any official fight night weight for either guy in the Mayweather vs DLH fight but as a DLH fan u know very well that DLH was AT LEAST 165 in the ring on fight night. Like I said, I'm not giving Floyd massive amounts of credit for his win, but the Pacvs DLH fight was a complete scam, and anyone who truly knows boxing (Pac fan, Floyd fan, or neither) knows that.

[studentofthegam]

i hope this annoys floyd so much that he'll go challenge pac really soon so he can be #1

cuz yknow, pac is an ez win right?

He will be really easy.

HE FOUGHT a light weight, a light weight ffs

what is it with you nut huggers, cant you see how wrong it is that a welterweight cherry picks a light weight and a near 40 year old man who was inactive for 18 months

the better option would have been the number 1 p4p in pacman

YOu know the deal about the Pacquiao fight. I'm sure you weren't calling Mosley an old man before that fight. As a matter of fact everyone said he was scared to fight Shane. When Floyd put that whoopin on him then he became "elderly". I could see if he struggled with JMM like ya boy. WHat do you think about Pac fighting Shane now? There are better options.

[jai mari078]

I agree with everything you say here bro BUT, you're leaving out A LOT of information. I'm not giving Floyd tons of credit for beating Oscar, but Manny vs DLH was literally one of the biggest scams in boxing history and purely a money making fight. DLH hadn't made 147 in over 10 years when he fought Manny, and the Pac camp even had the audacity to put a rehydration limit on his weight. He came in on fight night at 147. Pac actually weighed more than him in the ring at 148. This is a COMPLETE JOKE. They didn't give any official fight night weight for either guy in the Mayweather vs DLH fight but as a DLH fan u know very well that DLH was AT LEAST 165 in the ring on fight night. Like I said, I'm not giving Floyd massive amounts of credit for his win, but the Pacvs DLH fight was a complete scam, and anyone who truly knows boxing (Pac fan, Floyd fan, or neither) knows that.

I'm not giving either one of them credit because I think Oscar in his prime at 147 beats both of them. Both the Floyd fight and the manny fight were money fights.

I give you credit because I expected you to come back a lot worse and not so objectively. I can respect that, you don't have to agree with me as long as your able to be oblective. Props to you.

[Daniel Alpha]

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Nonito Donaire

[leone24]

i hope this annoys floyd so much that he'll go challenge pac really soon so he can be #1

cuz yknow, pac is an ez win right?

most definately.

[Pin Galarga]

Media HYPE, but all the fans but his *******s know that Martinez just climbed to #1 and Manny has to win impressive to win his seat back. There's no merits at this time to keep Manny as #1 but blind hype.

[Beater_of_ass]

Okay, three points:

1)

2) "if floyd fought marquez at 130..he would have gotten his ass whooped." I honestly can't tell if you are being serious here. Do you understand Floyd is probably the best super featherweight of all time? I know you don't think so, because you're an irrational critic of Mayweather.

3) You're post is full of ramblings about "oh so and so in his prime at their best weight would have killed floyd!" but you still haven't said who, other than Pacquiao of course, was a better option for Floyd to fight in May 2010. I'm really curious to hear who you think was.

I don't care if Floyd fought any of the following whether it be in or out of their prime. But its just the simply fact that the top 5 WW's when Floyd was #1, were don't know order but: Cotto, Margarito, Mosley and Clottey, its sad that Manny faced all but one before Floyd did.

As far as his wins:

1. Oscar - Who hasn't beat Oscar, the guy has 5 losses for a reason he was always a great draw and made great fights, but he was never a great fighter.

2. Hatton - Did anyone actually think Hatton would win?

3. Mosley - This is the only fight I give Floyd a pass on. He got ducked by Mosley himself a long time ago because Mosley stated Floyd wasn't a big enough draw (sounds familiar?) I see Floyd going down this same road.

4. Marquez - Not only did he move up TWO weight classes, Floyd didn't even make the catchweight and most important even after the fight Floyd himself called it a tune-up, watch the HBO post interview.

5. Castillo - Floyd lost the first time.

6. Judah - Judah is a good win, I always thought he was a solid fighter.

7. Baldomir - 12 losses, 'nuff said

8. Gatti - 10 losses, 'nuff said

The truth is Floyd IS a great fighter and he COULD be one of the best of all time. He has all the tools and for all the crap he gets for having no power, he has enough to keep you from swarming him non-stop. His weakness is he has no drive to prove he is the best, he just runs his mouth about. I can say I'm the best race car driver out there and win the Daytona 500 each year, but if the only race I participate in how can I be taking seriously, its the same issue with Floyd. He not only fights very very little, but the guys he does fights are always the easiest fight, there is nothing wrong with that, but you can't claim you're "the man" by doing that either.