Comments Thread For: Team Pacquiao: We Want Outdo Mayweather, Not Martinez

[rprayny]

ok whats been pissing me off is alot of you idiots who just see boxing but dont watch it! Pacquaio never ducks anyone! He has moved up so much weight all the way up to junior middle to fight margarito .how the hell does everyone expect to see martinez and pac fight just because martinez winning streak? He hasnt fought 147 since 2001! Why match them up and watch pac get hurt? Pac could not even reach 154 when against rito. Because he cannot physically move more. And people keep pushing this like its that simple. Its great martinez is a p4p as well but it dont mean move down divisions to prove more? Thats a berto move right there@! Why dont martinez face andre ward or bute at catch weight? Huh ? Theres other competition out there for martinez why not try pickin on some upper classes then instead of ww's? Wow

[boxingfan76]

fighting an old badly washed up mosley and beating him in any fashion does nothing to convice people pac should be number one. we all know mosey is shot we all know hes going to lose, we all know he hasnt won a fight in 2 years we all know hes 40 so whats the point?? wheres the greatness in beating mosley?, trying to beat a fighter we ALLL know hes going to beat better than mayweather , is so so weak !, I dont see any glory on any level to that.now if pac kos a berto or somebody actually dangeous or mayweather or somebody whos actually in their career and physical prime, then I could see pac re-inforcing the notion hes number 1, till then martinez is the best pound for pound rt now not mayweather or pacroid.beating bum after bum after bum and claiming thats great is ******, martinez is the goods rt now,not these pretenders.

[DominiBox]

Hatton looked like **** against Lazcano if you saw the fight you would know that.

Cotto wins against Michael who? exactly. He also looked poor against Clottey after that fight people where seriously questioning if that was the same Cotto as we saw before the fight with Marg.(it wasnt that fight took a hell of a lot out of him)

Past prime Barera, lost the first fight to a slightly past prime Morales, Marquez i had Pac losing both fights (so did a lot of people) but yes Marquez back in 2008 was the last time Pac was up against someone in his prime. again a lot of people had him losing that fight coincidence? i think not.

So id say it is you that needs to think before you type.

After proving your wrong statement that Pac's opponents came from losses..
So you have an excuse to every Pac's success !!
Woww..... that's not coincidence dude !!

And specially proves you ARE a hater !!

[boxingfan76]

ok whats been pissing me off is alot of you idiots who just see boxing but dont watch it! Pacquaio never ducks anyone! He has moved up so much weight all the way up to junior middle to fight margarito .how the hell does everyone expect to see martinez and pac fight just because martinez winning streak? He hasnt fought 147 since 2001! Why match them up and watch pac get hurt? Pac could not even reach 154 when against rito. Because he cannot physically move more. And people keep pushing this like its that simple. Its great martinez is a p4p as well but it dont mean move down divisions to prove more? Thats a berto move right there@! Why dont martinez face andre ward or bute at catch weight? Huh ? Theres other competition out there for martinez why not try pickin on some upper classes then instead of ww's? Wow

ummm your knocking fans who arent nuthuggers like yourself and your saying people who dont think like you dont watch or know boxing yet you claim"pac doesnt duck anyone" now we all know thats really ****** and untrue. its more true that pac ducks everyone who poses a challenge and doesnt duck any washed up badly beaten coming- off -of -losses no- hoper fighters, those are the types pacyow doesnt duck.matinez is a natural 154lber and hes dominating a wt class above that also , so saying he needs to fight the klits is dumb and go up in wt is dumb hes in his natural wt and above , and at any wt martinez is simply a better fighter than pac is end of story! there is no doubt. pac just won a 154lb title martinez is a natural 154lber , yet since pac and everybody knows sergio will knock pac out all the sudden pac is too small all the sudden pac only fights at 147lbs ha ha what a joke. if martinez were a bum pac would be fighting him at heavyweight lmao!!! just be honest people! in life theres alwys somebody bigger and badder and martinez is that man.martinez is great not because hes on a winning streak but because the class of opponents hes beating far far outclasses anybody pac has ever faced or ever will!

[IMDAZED]

if he is a fighter (he is not), a partner, and being promoted by gbp even though he is de jure a "free agent", he is a gbp fighter de facto

If that were the case he couldn't just walk away.

but he didn't. he seeked the services of gbp when he tried to make the fight in december. makes sense, he's a part of GBP.

my point, MOSLEY WAS PART OF GBP UNTIL DECEMBER 2010 NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT. LANDED THE FIGHT WHEN HE LEFT WHATEVER TIES HE HAS WITH THEM.

therefore, the prime factor here is shane's affiliation with golden boy and him landing the fight after such ties were severed publicly

Either way he was a free agent. His partnership has NOTHING to do with his ability to make a fight unless someone feels like acting like a girl. GBP wouldn't have gotten a cut if Arum didn't want it. Get over it and (one more time) STOP MAKING EXCUSES.

[Dempsey-Roll]

haters will hate

since floyd is inactive and out of the picture, they jump on the martinez bandwagon and criticize pac for not jumping another weight division to fight him

since manny has moved up to WW, his speed imo has decreased. Manny cant even make 150 so ppl pushing for this fight are ******ed haters who wants to see manny lose.
ppl will say, well what about margarito??
Remember, team pac has learned from that fight and pac actually got hurt from margarito becuz marg had 17 pounds on him on fight night. and thats WITH a 150 CW.

If manny accepts a 154 fight for martinez, he's either really ******ed or really confident in his skills.

[-Lowkey-]

After proving your wrong statement that Pac's opponents came from losses..
So you have an excuse to every Pac's success !!
Woww..... that's not coincidence dude !!

And specially proves you ARE a hater !!

Ah now you are resorting to putting words in my mouth.

This is the quote from my previous post you are referring to.

''So its a coincidence that Pacs last 6 opponents have all looked like absolute **** in there previous fights?''

and I stand by that statement.

Margarito-coming off long suspension and unimpressive 10 round win against Roberto Garcia.

Clottey coming off close points loss to Cotto neither fighter impressed.

Cotto same as Clottey.

Hatton didn't look great against hand picked light hitter Paulie, and nearly got K.Oed by Juan Lazcano.

Oscar looked unimpressive in a fight that was supposed to be easy for him against Steve Forbes.

Finally the great David Diaz coming off a MD to Ramon Montano

Next up 40 year old Mosley who hasnt won a fight in over 2 years.

So there you have it try to keep up with my posts and read them accurately before replying.

[boxingfan76]

haters will hate

since floyd is inactive and out of the picture, they jump on the martinez bandwagon and criticize pac for not jumping another weight division to fight him

since manny has moved up to WW, his speed imo has decreased. Manny cant even make 150 so ppl pushing for this fight are ******ed haters who wants to see manny lose.
ppl will say, well what about margarito??
Remember, team pac has learned from that fight and pac actually got hurt from margarito becuz marg had 17 pounds on him on fight night. and thats WITH a 150 CW.

If manny accepts a 154 fight for martinez, he's either really ******ed or really confident in his skills.

im tired of all these CANDY -ASS excuses pac his team and his fans make for him, to try and justify the fact that pac never faces the top competetion in any weight class!this is boxing your gonna get hurt!he can fight an even bigger than martinez margarito but not somebody good or dangerous, how convinient, based on countless lame excuses pac always puts forth to justify all the bums he fights martinez is number 1 not pac. i dont hear martinez ducking everbody in his wt class and crying about it.THERES NO CRYING IN BOXING!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kagami Taiga]

Past prime? So Cotto was waaaaay past it huh? and Clottey? No way in hell Floyd gets in the ring with Cotto, Marg, and Clottey even if they were considered what you say past their prime..

Pac slaughtered or shut out literally everyone at WW.. My money says Pac slaughters Mosley and ****m throws in the towel in a late stoppage by Pac.. TRUST IT..

everyone??? he only fought 2 real wws in his whole career there. lmao. surely u jest.

as far as past prime. yes cotto was past prime after the margarito fight. i knew it, u knew it, and everyone else who wasnt deluded knew it. it was a great win tho. the only one i dont discredit. and plz dont ever mention clottey again. hes never been ****, will never be **** and hes a 3rd rate fighter at best. at least a 2nd rate fighter doesnt quit half way thru fights. and i called that fight exactly as it happened. not impressed. margarito past prime, mosely past prime. just big names. dont defend what doesnt need to be defended. be a boxing fan plz.

[megas30]

Gotta love the strategy. The masses are so dumb.

Exactly!! They never plan to fight him, but try and out do...also to use his unpopularity against him.