Can Martinez move up and win?

[Ray*]

Martinez is a small middleweight and will have some issue with guys that show 10-15 lbs heavier than him for the fight. At this time He should stick with middleweights.

Watch the Pavlik fight and check how much Pavlik outweight Martinez on fight night...

[War Dinamita]

He's too old and too small to compete against the elite at 168. I'm sure he could beat a few guys at 168, but he would probably lose to the top guys at 168 because he's too small. The weight difference and power would make a difference.

[Castor_Troy]

He moved up and beat the man at 160, He didnt cherrypick a title at 160 like Pac and Mayweather have been doing for years, Learn about boxing before chatting *****..

What's with the ignorance of people following Martinez's victory over Dzin?


Pac cherry picked Ledwabba on a 2 week Notice
Pac moved up to cherry pick Marco Antonio Barrera
Pac moved up to cherry pick Erik Morales ( He lost )
Pac moved up to cherry pick Oscar DelaHoya


Floyd Cherry picked Diego Corrales
Floyd Moved up and Cherry Picked Jose Luis Castillo
Floyd moved up and Cherry Picked Arturo Gatti
Floyd moved up and cherry picked ODLH.



Ray* is a good poster i presume but that post is idiotic.

[bojangles1987]

We don't know, but certainly not right now IMO. He just got to middleweight and isn't exactly big at the weight. Another fight or two to get used to weighing in at 160 and I think he can.

[J Dubb II 330]

I think Bute is real good, along with Froch, but I think Ward is his biggest challenge by far, I would like to see a Pavlik rematch at 168 or maybe Dirrell which could be a great fight

[Doctor_Tenma]

Yeah he can move up and win, but it sure as hell wont be against Dirrell, Ward, Bute, Froch or Kessler.

[victorythagr8]

He moved up and beat the man at 160, He didnt cherrypick a title at 160 like Pac and Mayweather have been doing for years, Learn about boxing before chatting *****..

oh is that why martinez resume is nowhere close as good as pacquaio's at all. You know what is funny that a drunked, less confident, Pavlik and paul williams wins are equal to pacquaio drunk Ricky Hatton, miguel cottoo win. But some reason people saying Martinez is fighting far better competition even though their competition for the past 3 years are basically the same. THe only difference is that people like to discredit pacquaio win.

And you know what is funny....how come martinez didn't step up to competion before.

And don't put the no amatuer background bull**** too because pacquaio has no amatuer background and is younger than martinez and some how his resume **** all over martinez but yet martinez fighting better competition.

Pacquaio is about to clean up 147 but yet he gets flack for cleaning out 147.

[Ray*]

What's with the ignorance of people following Martinez's victory over Dzin?


Pac cherry picked Ledwabba on a 2 week Notice
Pac moved up to cherry pick Marco Antonio Barrera
Pac moved up to cherry pick Erik Morales ( He lost )
Pac moved up to cherry pick Oscar DelaHoya


Floyd Cherry picked Diego Corrales
Floyd Moved up and Cherry Picked Jose Luis Castillo
Floyd moved up and Cherry Picked Arturo Gatti
Floyd moved up and cherry picked ODLH.



Ray* is a good poster i presume but that post is idiotic.

I love how you picked Pac's best fights and left out his cherrypicking, You forgot about larios, you forgot about David Diaz, You forgot about Eric Morales (3rd fight)..

I havent got time to educate fan boys to be honest..

oh is that why martinez resume is nowhere close as good as pacquaio's at all. You know what is funny that a drunked, less confident, Pavlik and paul williams wins are equal to pacquaio drunk Ricky Hatton, miguel cottoo win. But some reason people saying Martinez is fighting far better competition even though their competition for the past 3 years are basically the same. THe only difference is that people like to discredit pacquaio win.

And you know what is funny....how come martinez didn't step up to competion before.

And don't put the no amatuer background bull**** too because pacquaio has no amatuer background and is younger than martinez and some how his resume **** all over martinez but yet martinez fighting better competition.

Pacquaio is about to clean up 147 but yet he gets flack for cleaning out 147.

What has Pac done for us lately? Keeping active? Fighting name shot and war-torn fighters? Get back to me whenever he takes on a fighter on two impressive wins in a roll..

[V.WEBB]

Did we forget that he has already moved up in the past?

[Jim Jeffries]

I think he can beat Abraham and Kessler. Ward and Dirrell, I'm not so sure about. And when you're the man at MW, why move up at this stage of your career just so you can be the 3rd or 4th best at SMW?