America I don't understand the hate for the Klitschko's?

[StarshipTrooper]

99 posts and the only thing proven is that Klitschko threads bring the ******s out of the woodwork :rolleyes9:

Poet

[Pirao]

99 posts and the only thing proven is that Klitschko threads bring the ******s out of the woodwork :rolleyes9:

Poet

Indeed. You're living proof of that fact

[appollo33]

Take a good look people, this is how to be completely ****ing ******ed. These people right here clearly have no clue about boxing. Apparently these guys(Klitschko's)should be letting everyone they fight tee off on them to their hearts content and take every bit of punishment their opponents can possibly deliver like idiots.



No idiot, if they both did that all the time they'd be flat on their a**es most of the time, and neither of them would be world champions. Also, if they fought like that, that would mean that neither of them have developed for ****. Meanwhile these two are good enough that they can go through fights taking minimal damage and beating the piss out of everyone they fight. It might not be like a f**king Rocky movie, but it's still a beautiful display of boxing technique and ability. Men their size aren't typically as good as they are because AT that size they start to get too clumsy and uncoordinated. These two however, Wlad moreso than Vitali, are very smooth on their feet, fluid with their hands, and show athleticism that is very rare of men their size. Wlad is also very quick for a heavyweight.



I can't believe this. You're trying to hold it against him that he's tall and thusly harder to hit? I guess he shouldn't have grown to be 6'6'' or 6'7'', how selfish of him to grow that tall. Here's the real deal, even against guys their height they manage to keep from getting hit, that is just another pointless waste of breath on your part.



Yeah, it's called footwork and defense ******. I suppose that you, like the vegetable lasagna above, think they should just stand there and get their a**es beat? Ya see, when an opponent has you trapped in a corner, it's generally a good tactic to get the hell out of there unless your a masterful counter puncher or just like eating leather. So, in an effort to not give any opportunity to his opponent, he does a real novel thing, he moves out of range like a smart fighter. Sorry if that doesn't make sense to you, I can't imagine why either of them wouldn't want to sit there and let people pound on them like cavemen.


I've got to call you other ****ers out too who are trying to say that "Americans don't like the Klitschko's because they aren't from America". I just think that's b.s. for starters because I am an American and I love these guys to death. They are my favorite heavyweights of my lifetime (1985-present) and that's saying a lot when you look at that list of people in there. A lot of Americans on that list too. The guy I'd put right behind them is Lennox Lewis, a Brit, so you can gladly take that Anti-American **** and shove it. I know that's the "IN" thing these days, to be anti-America but that **** is just ****** and I would hope you folks were better than that. I would also hope that my countrymen would be wiser than that if they do harbor anything against them for that reason.

So far though I haven't seen anyone make any mention of that but you people. Grasping at straws anyone? All my friends that are boxing fans also love the Klitschko's and that's because they get **** done. I personally like that they fight in that traditional stand up European styles as well. It's technical and smart. If you actually pay attention to the damage they do to their opponents it's depressing. You hope to God they've got good health insurance and a Roth IRA or something because by the end of the fight you figure they'll be walking on their heels for the rest of their lives.

Great post man, i concur on all your points!

[ChopperRead]

Let me add that Wlad in his CLINCHIEST fight (vs Sam Peter I) clinched less than Lennox (vs Tyson) and HALF as much (20 seconds per round) as Ali (40 seconds per round) (vs Frazier).

Let me additionally add, that Wlad is CLINCHing (legal) while Ali is arm holding (illegal), neck grabbing (illegal) and head-down-pushing (illegal).

Moreover Wlad's clinches are swift and ending soon (2 seconds on average) while Ali holds and holds and holds.

Excellent use of stats to prove a point.

[ChopperRead]

Either Americans have a bias towards foreign fighters or they don't. The fact that you are now trying to separate the lighter divisions from the heavweights to support your argument just shows me that you're reaching.

Being Russian or Euro has **** all to do with it. Kostya Tszyu was well respected by the American boxing fans wasn't he?

Just face it. If the Klits aren't popular in the US it's not because they're foreign. It's because they're boring and the guys they are fighting don't help either.

That's bunk. Even Larry Merchant doesn't believe that.

How many times even today have people thrown the Rocky films Soviet cliches at the K-Bros on these threads? Lots.

So saying that being "Russian" (and it's actually Ukrainian -- is a Canadian the same thing as an American to you, too?) has nothing to do with it is simply wrong.

[Gojira]

The funny thing is that Haye gets criticized for his performance against Audley though thats the exact same thing that Wlad does every fight.

[Steak]

reality is Klitschko fans enjoy a certain amount of Klitschko hate. it makes the brothers seem 'unappreciated' and downtrodden, I guess.

case and point: Early in this thread I expessed how I liked the brothers and that not all Americans dislike them, its just that we are misrepresented by a few of the loudmouth ones that do hate them.

completely ignored, and they fed on the negative Klitschko comments.

A lot of Klitschko fans have the mindframe of: "If the you dont consider the Klitschko brothers the best of all time, then youre a biased hateful American pig".
which is ridiculous.

[ShoulderRoll]

That's bunk. Even Larry Merchant doesn't believe that.

Larry Merchant is an old drunk that needs to be put out to pasture.

Kostya Tszyu was Russian born and Americans had no problem giving him his proper respect plus we looked forward to his fights. The Klits just aren't exciting to watch and the heavyweight division is horrible.

[StarshipTrooper]

Speaking of ******s, I'm surprised Wlad Ownz hasn't copied and pasted his pre-fabbed spam posts in here yet :thinking9:

Poet

[Pirao]

reality is Klitschko fans enjoy a certain amount of Klitschko hate. it makes the brothers seem 'unappreciated' and downtrodden, I guess.

case and point: Early in this thread I expessed how I liked the brothers and that not all Americans dislike them, its just that we are misrepresented by a few of the loudmouth ones that do hate them.

completely ignored, and they fed on the negative Klitschko comments.

A lot of Klitschko fans have the mindframe of: "If the you dont consider the Klitschko brothers the best of all time, then youre a biased hateful American pig".
which is ridiculous.

I don't think I ignored it, in my post I said most americans, of course there are exceptions like you or Spray_resistant. So in that sense at least, I'm free of guilt