Dear Sergio, P4P means challenging fighters up the weight ladder, not downward...

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  • Chuckguy
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    #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    All pavlik has done is beat JT. Froch beat JT and Pascal and others that make him as qualified to be no1 p4p as Sergio. PW and Pavlik arent all that is all im saying and Sergio needs a proper test.

    The thing is Froch isnt p4pno1 and neither is Sergio is my point.
    look at how ******ed this guy sounds
    all Pavlik do was be the first to beat JT convincingly
    Froch has had a nice run too no doubt
    Froch is busy right now you dumb shi t
    how can sergio fight him

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    • Canelo Phresh
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      #42
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      But, your argument is just as weak though...
      At the end of the day is all an opinion matter. There is no, I repeat NO official P4P ranking. There is no, I repeat NO true criteria on how to rank P4P....Everybody had there own way.

      The true definition of P4P on how it was created. Who is the best, if everything was equal, size, height, reach, weight and that would be P4P. That was the idea.

      Some people like to use who you beat, which is fine as well. resumes and accomplishment and all of that. Is all good because at the end of the day is just a mythical opinion based ranking.

      When I create, I have my own personal criteria, I look a lot at who you beat, I hold that the main factor, and I go back as far as 3 years...Nothing more than 36 months on who you beat. 36 month is still recent and yet long enough to see the level of comp being faced. And, then secondary I take into account if everything was equal in terms of size who would win.

      I got Pac #1 P4P, Martinez #2, Floyd #3, JMM #4, and Donaire #5. That's my top 5.

      And, yours could be completely different and it's fine as well. Because, at the end of the day this ranking is not official. It just a mythical based opinion ranking.
      I got Martinez 1 Pacquiao 2 Marquez 3 Mayweather 4 Donaire 5. I see the point your making but If you play to the strong suits of one and dont make the playing field level for all entries into your p4p ranking than sure pacs atg status makes it impossible for anybody to top him p4p hes top 15 for damn sure. I feel that atg and p4p are 2 different discussions.

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      • Ragnar Lothbrok
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        #43
        Originally posted by Mannie Phresh
        I got Martinez 1 Pacquiao 2 Marquez 3 Mayweather 4 Donaire 5. I see the point your making but If you play to the strong suits of one and dont make the playing field level for all entries into your p4p ranking than sure pacs atg status makes it impossible for anybody to top him p4p hes top 15 for damn sure. I feel that atg and p4p are 2 different discussions.
        you have already been educated as to why resume is tied in p4p rankings if a fighter is active & is currently prominent, winning & in the top 10 p4p argument.

        I dont know why you keep trying real hard to look obtuse.

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        • Aut_72
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          #44
          So Floyd and Pac moved down 154 to 147... so that doesn't count for p4p ranks??

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          • Pullcounter
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            #45
            dear sergio,

            fight pirog

            sincerely,

            boxing fans

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            • Dale Cardon
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mana$$aMauler
              Dear Sergio,

              So I heard you're trying to become P4P king. You just beat the junior middleweight king in Sergei Dzinziruk. Big ****in whoop!!! Your a ****in MIDDLEWEIGHT!!! You just beat a guy a whole weight class smaller than you.

              If you or your handler, DiBella, wants to see your name on the P4P top spot, you better fight like it. Instead of begging for a fight with smaller guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao, you should be moving up the weight ladder, not moving down!

              Why don't you go challenge one of the super six and fight someone your own size.

              You've been fighting in or around 150+ all your life, why don't you take yur skills and move up the ladder like p4p fighters do?

              I'll rattle off a couple of suggestions for you:
              - Challenge Margarito, he beat you, why not avenge that loss?
              - Lucian Bute, move up Sergio!

              Stop challenging 5-6 to 5-8 midgets and fight bigger challengers and you'll definitely deserve P4P.

              Yo Pappi
              co-sign... green coming up

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              • Dale Cardon
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                #47
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                dear sergio,

                fight pirog

                sincerely,

                boxing fans
                better still, fight MARGARITO.

                he lost to Marg before.

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                • Dale Cardon
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                  where are all the ppl who were calling foul when the same thing was said about donaire less than a month ago??
                  donaire is moving up, not down.

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                  • Canelo Phresh
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by oj simpson
                    you have already been educated as to why resume is tied in p4p rankings if a fighter is active & is currently prominent, winning & in the top 10 p4p argument.

                    I dont know why you keep trying real hard to look obtuse.
                    if you read j-ros point he was saying that p4p is subjective to each individuals opinion and that he also included past resume when he judges p4p. i dont, and dont feel it gives better fighters who fight better opposition a fair shake at the title.

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                    • Kagami Taiga
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dale Cardon
                      donaire is moving up, not down.
                      he is??? since when??? 118 was his original weight class. he moved down to beat up smaller fighters. hes just now returned to 118. dont post if u dont kno wat ur talking about.

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