Why hasn't Yuri Foreman been criticized for quitting on his stool?

[Russian Crushin]

Compare Kellerman's comfort while growing up with affluent parents in Greenwich Village, to the circumstances that Victor Ortiz grew up in.

If I remember correctly, someone on HBO said that Victor was homeless for a time in his teens and had to sleep outdoors.

And?

Is that Kellermans fault

Are you saying that the middle class doesnt go through hardship?

[The Hammer]

Yes it sounds like he was a basic middle class family

If Tunney's stereotype that all ***s were rich was true, then i would be sitting front row at every fight

I see.

How did you manage to meet and speak with Andy Lee and Max Kellerman?

[Russian Crushin]

I see.

How did you manage to meet and speak with Andy Lee and Max Kellerman?

LMAO i got $50 tickets, saw the fight from there and then snuck in ringside after the fight was over and got to speak to everyone.

Plus i saw a few of them on the slot machines when they were ******** in the casino

[The Hammer]

And?

Is that Kellermans fault

Are you saying that the middle class doesnt go through hardship?

Of course we do not.

Hardship is growing up in the slums of cities and in rural poverty.

It not Max's fault that he grew up in affluence and with privileges that many people don't have.

However, it IS his fault when he is so hard on people who have been less fortunate.

[Mr. Philadel]

It's not just that he got totally beaten like a rag-doll by the Polish fighter, and was forced to retire on his stool, but the Lion of Zion was a sore loser during the post-fight interview, making excuses and he gave Wolak zero-credit for raping him. It shows what a true pathetic loser he is.


De La Hoya got beaten just as worse and he got bashed for months - this bum deserves more heat.

Co-sign!!!!!!!

[Russian Crushin]

Of course we do not.

Hardship is growing up in the slums of cities and in rural poverty.

It not Max's fault that he grew up in affluence and with privileges that many people don't have.

However, it IS his fault when he is so hard on people who have been less fortunate.

What hardship?

Ortiz was not in hardship anymore and was making good money and was considered the next big star.

My father was a mirror image of Ortiz's father but if someone criticizes me, i wont say its wong just because i grew up in hardship

Ortiz's upbringing had nothing to do with people criticizing his boxing

[Mikhnienko]

People have alot of trouble understanding because ***s are now considered a race by many even though it is a religion.

Never understood why people considered it a race.

Judiasm is a religion and anyone could become a *** but alot of ***s, probably the vast majority in the world, do share a genetic relatedness and can be classified in Ethnic groups like the Ashke**** and Sephardic ***s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashke****_***s#By_ethnicity

True. It's a religion not a race.

And you are Slavic like me.

Slavs share lots of things, their haplogroups and Ethnicity being one of them. Russian Crushin mentioned that his Father is an Ethnic Ukrainian but most European ***s from Slavic countries are not Slavic Ethnically.

[The Hammer]

What hardship?

Ortiz was not in hardship anymore and was making good money and was considered the next big star.

My father was a mirror image of Ortiz's father but if someone criticizes me, i wont say its wong just because i grew up in hardship

Ortiz's upbringing had nothing to do with people criticizing his boxing

That isn't what I said.

I'm saying someone like Max (or myself for that matter) who not only has never experienced the hardship of extreme poverty, but also who has never been beaten up in the ring by someone as tough as Maidana...

...should NOT be so hard on a fighter in that situation.

[Russian Crushin]

That isn't what I said.

I'm saying someone like Max (or myself for that matter) who not only has never experienced the hardship of extreme poverty, but also who has never been beaten up in the ring by someone as tough as Maidana...

...should NOT be so hard on a fighter in that situation.

HBO hired him as a commentator so his job is to speak and give his opinion.

And thats exactly what he did. What he said was also the opinion of the majority of people.

What should he have said?

[BostonGuy]

I did a wiki search and a couple google searches and can't really confirm a silver spoon. He doesn't really come off to as overly wealthy. He went to hunter college high school btw. It doesn't really officially indicate anything, and anyone can act it up a bit but.. Kellerman looked pretty middle of the pack in that rap video he came out with.

Kellerman was in a rap video? Please share...