Why are Pac/May expected to move up in weight but not Sexy Sergio?

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  • DrewWoodside
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    #71
    Originally posted by Nani Loc
    Martinez already moved up to beat Pavlik, a man many expect him to lose against, because he couldn't get big fights at 154, if he hadn't of took it and won teh fight, he probably wouldn't have gotten teh rematch with Williams, and now it's being used against him.
    Assuming Pac and May do not fight Martinez, who would you pick for his next fight? A fight that would help him maintain the sort of momentum he's had and continue to push him to the next level.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #72
      Originally posted by DrewWoodside
      Assuming Pac and May do not fight Martinez, who would you pick for his next fight? A fight that would help him maintain the sort of momentum he's had and continue to push him to the next level.
      Cotto. Other than that, he's **** out of luck.

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        #73
        Because there's much more competition at SMW. He'd get killed by any top level fighter there (Kessler, Ward, Froch). There's not at WW for Pacquiao and Mayweather, only bums... So if they want to reach the great ATG list and secure a spot in the upper level, they should be challenged against the best.

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          #74
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Cotto. Other than that, he's **** out of luck.
          Yup, which unfortunately puts him in a spot where he is **** out of luck. I think Cotto should do it for the sake of boxing. Gotta keep helping the sport build these stars. Although it's easier for me to say since Maravilla isn't taking my head off in there.

          If you had to pick a fight at 168 for Martinez, that he could win and would have some value to him who would you take?

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            #75
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            You sound desperate. Fall back and think for a second. Once you get your logic on par with reality, we can continue this conversation. Really think here.

            sound like you got no come back for me.


            the only thing you been saying is that pacquaio fought at 150 and got the lmw WBC belt(which is crooked by the way). You know the same belt that canelo got for fighting 154.


            Just admit you are biased as hell and have double standard and call it a day. You act like pacquaio and floyd both dominated 154 even though both fighters said they are not comfortable at the weight class yet.

            But yet they are ducking martinez even though martinez is currently two weight classes above them.

            Instead of attacking the two all time greats to fight martinez who is 2 weight class above them, that we should use all that ammunition for the true paper champion who is arguably the 3rd biggest draw named Saul Alverez.

            Yet im desperate even though you let your biases blind your version of reality.

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              #76
              Originally posted by GoogleMe
              Because there's much more competition at SMW. He'd get killed by any top level fighter there (Kessler, Ward, Froch). There's not at WW for Pacquiao and Mayweather, only bums... So if they want to reach the great ATG list and secure a spot in the upper level, they should be challenged against the best.
              I don't think those guys necessarily kill Martinez. He's on such another level with guys his own size, I think he can push that extra class and still beat elite fighters. Some even in impressive fashion.

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                #77
                Originally posted by victorythagr8
                sound like you got no come back for me.


                the only thing you been saying is that pacquaio fought at 150 and got the lmw WBC belt(which is crooked by the way). You know the same belt that canelo got for fighting 154.


                Just admit you are biased as hell and have double standard and call it a day. You act like pacquaio and floyd both dominated 154 even though both fighters said they are not comfortable at the weight class yet.

                But yet they are ducking martinez even though martinez is currently two weight classes above them.

                Instead of attacking the two all time greats to fight martinez who is 2 weight class above them, that we should use all that ammunition for the true paper champion who is arguably the 3rd biggest draw named Saul Alverez.

                Yet im desperate even though you let your biases blind your version of reality.
                I'm not even gonna bother with you. Your last post was all over the place which is why I told you to chill out, take a step back and think things through. This post is even worse. Have fun, bud. You're just not worth it.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                  Yup, which unfortunately puts him in a spot where he is **** out of luck. I think Cotto should do it for the sake of boxing. Gotta keep helping the sport build these stars. Although it's easier for me to say since Maravilla isn't taking my head off in there.

                  If you had to pick a fight at 168 for Martinez, that he could win and would have some value to him who would you take?
                  None. And he shouldn't go that high. He could Arthur Abraham maybe but what would be the point of that? He should go back to 154. That's his best bet.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by VAW-JR
                    I have no problem with Manny or Floyd moving to 54 to fight Sergio. I would LOVE it actually. But the reality is, they won't, because Sergio is just too much of a risk.
                    And thats the reality and truth, No need to try and hide fighters like Pac, Cotto or Mayweather behind "He's too small" for so so and so..

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      I'm not even gonna bother with you. Your last post was all over the place which is why I told you to chill out, take a step back and think things through. This post is even worse. Have fun, bud. You're just not worth it.
                      SO you admit you are biased and have double standard. Its ok for Martinez too call out great fighters who fights 2 weight class under him but not for pacquaio or floyd to call out fighters from light weight(which pacquaio hasnt done)

                      I just never could get the whole pass that Martinez get for calling out Pacquaio or floyd to prove he is great....and then Floyd get crucified for fighting Marquez(and i also crucified floyd for this).

                      I just wanted to know since when is it ok for a fighters to call out a fighter from the lower divison and then people start calling him a warrior for it.

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