Wladimir Klitschko - how can Haye beat him?

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  • hugh grant
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    #21
    I dont think you need to be more scientific than haye having to land the kind of punch the south african coetzee or whatever his name is again on his chin, and hes got 12 rounds to find it.

    But Wlad is more careful and wary and can i say smarter now for his losses. It will perhaps be harder to do now.

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    • ADP02
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      #22
      Haye will need to keep Wladimir out of rhythm, off balance and constantly defending himself. The more Wladimir is his usual controlled self, the less likely that Haye wins this fight.


      Haye would need to get on the inside often, connect then take a step back as Wladimir tries to hold and connect again.


      When on the outside, make sure that Haye stays way outside (and moving) so that Wladimir can't jab him to death. This is important as I see Haye hanging on the outside a lot.


      Haye has that size/reach disadvantage so if Haye makes Wladimir fight his fight, then the only chance Haye has is by way of the KO punch. I hope that Haye doesn't (but most probably will) fight all night on the outside, being overly patient, and come in too few times, making it a boring fight.


      On the upside, Haye has much better speed and more athletic than most of Wladimir's recent opponents. Therefore, we may be seeing Wladimir more vulnerable than we have seen him of late.

      All that I wish for is a good fight. It's been a while that I haven't seen a good fight in the HW division and especially fighting for the belts.

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      • Steak
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        #23
        the only way I see Haye having a chance is if he takes a page out of '****ty boxing 101 by Jean Pascal'.

        In other words, run run run. then flurry like nuts and hope they get through hurt Wlad. sounds amateurish, and it is, but it actually is an effective strategy in this particular fight.

        1. Wlad is patient...almost too patient. He didnt put pressure on Ibragimov when Ibrag was running and fighting defensively. If Haye runs away and puts up the illusion of being ready to attack if Wlad gets too close, he can stifle Wlad's offense.
        2. Wlad isnt a very good counter puncher...rarely does it. He can catch you as you try to come inside, but if you go on an all out assualt he will simply backpeddle, weather the storm, and clinch. Thats what Haye needs to do every time he attacks, it will be reletively safe for Haye since Wlad will go defensive and if Haye is lucky he can do some damage...after all, Wlads chin and overall durability is probably his biggest weakness. If his punches get through, he can change the momentum in his favor and win rounds, and maybe put Wladimir on the canvas if hes super lucky.

        I can tell you right now, that if Haye tries to stand midrange with Wlad and 'box', hes getting dominated by jabs and then the right hand.

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        • hweightblogger
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          #24
          Originally posted by RichCCFC
          2. What are Wladimir's weaknesses?
          Lack of inside game, questionable chin, confidence on finishing, lack of combinations.

          3. How does Wladimir compensate for these weaknesses?
          By jabbing, jabbing, holding. Might be boring time to time but no one has been able to stop him in years.
          Before you speculate about weaknesses you have to prove that "lack of combinations" or "lack of inside game" is a weakness. There has hardly been a boxer with a greater dominance over his opponents than Wladimir Klitschko thus actually "inside game" and "combinations" are the weaknesses or rather substitutions to cover up weaknesses.

          Wlad has the highest "unique KOratio" (I excluded WDQs and NCs and headbutt results) of all heavyweight world champs (78 to date) thus you are trying to find faults where there are most probably none.

          It's exactly this American nonsense of "Good boxing = combinations, uppercuts, inside game" that makes Wlad win over and over again. Because every opponent concentrates on "getting inside" or "touch his mandibula" whereas this has been proven to not work since years.
          Last edited by hweightblogger; 03-12-2011, 09:14 PM.

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