the loser of Ortiz vs Berto

[sweetpea87]

I never trash on a fighter just for losing one fight, I will still like both of them regradless as long as they both put up a good fight.

[sicko]

one lose does not mean the end of your career, it depends on how you lose though, it has been fighters who end up gaining respect and became even bigger stars in DEFEAT because they kept battling and never gave up

If Ortiz quit again then it is going to be almost impossible to make him a star or a draw, with Berto even if he wins he won't get much credit and if he lose you will hear what you have been hearing all this time from some people "Berto is Overrated and Overpayed" "Berto Hasn't Fought Anybody"...so unfortunately for Berto this fight is still a Lose/Lose situation

sometimes you just have to take fights just for PRIDE, for Example at Rematch with Collazo and a match with Cintron who been talking a lot of trash about him, even if the fight is not on HBO, those are fights that get you respect instead of just ignoring them and letting them bash you and make you look like you are scared of them

[Phil Ivey]

Ortiz is going to be for a long long night, this guy is prepared to take punches from a real 147 pounder when he was backing up from Peterson? Ortiz's career ends after this and Oscar knows it.