Leonard vs Mayweather Sr (love this fight)

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  • intoccabile
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    #21
    Originally posted by Check_hooks
    If you watch the video SRL was not coming in behind the jab and was just unloading on Floyd sr without anything coming back. One check hook and he would've been dropped by Pac. At one point SRL threw like 6 hooks in a row with the same hand. Thats how you get KTFO. Ask Hatton about the slip under right hand that ended his career.
    You're treating it though like this was his style, and it wasn't. If you are seriously basing your predictions on fantasy fights solely on this video alone then I will have to agree with the previous poster who said this 4 minutes of SRL are the only moments of him you've seen, period.

    The fact that he could approach the fight like this and completely break Sr's will and never let him mount anything is just another skillset he had. SRL generally is known for his boxing ability, blazing speed, and showboating though.

    As I stated in the OP - he showed no respect for Sr's defense or the possible ramifications for punching a Shoulder roller with a right hand (rabbit punches, punches in the back region) and just fought a perfect fight for this style. Relentless.

    Saying Pacman would knock him out is a serious stretch. Leonard is about as big as Margarito with all the skills in the world, too. Pacman would be dwarfed and wouldn't be the faster, stronger, or more powerful man in the ring.

    As for the poster who mentioned SRL being the greatest fight ever - I tend to convince myself of this at times too. He had several gears and he used them all. He wasn't a 1 trick pony who was either reluctant to back up/defend or come forward/attack. He had all the tools in the world and is an ATG for his wins against incredible competition ALL THE WHILE having 4 years stripped of his prime because of his eye.

    There are VERY VERY few fighter who I personally think can go through Leonards resume undefeated and pacman is FAR from being one of them - he is just too small.

    Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler come to mind as well as a host of other talent and 4 years removed from the sport.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #22
      Originally posted by Check_hooks
      You can't say that because SRL completely embarrassed Floyd Sr that he would beat Pacquiao. Floyd Sr is slow, has no power and has terrible offense and defense. He was literally a punching bag in that fight and SRL doesn't have extraordinary handspeed.

      Pac vs SRL would be a great fight but Pac has alot of advantages like faster handspeed, more power and better head movement. Footwork is a push. If SRL tried to trade with Pacquiao like he did with Floyd Sr he would get KTFO.
      pac has better head movement than ray leonard? what are you ***n high?

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      • jtiger777
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        #23
        Originally posted by considerthis
        pac has better head movement than ray leonard? what are you ***n high?
        lol that guy is insane

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        • TheGreatA
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          #24
          Floyd Sr was a good boxer and he gave Leonard more trouble than seen in the brief highlight clip. Leonard was just too much for him though. Mayweather also had a good pair of fights with Marlon Starling. He had very fast hands, but wasn't much of a puncher.

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          • alb829
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            #25
            Originally posted by TheGreatA
            Floyd Sr was a good boxer and he gave Leonard more trouble than seen in the brief highlight clip. Leonard was just too much for him though. Mayweather also had a good pair of fights with Marlon Starling. He had very fast hands, but wasn't much of a puncher.
            I agree with you. It wasn't as easy as this video made it seem. And I also just read an interview yesterday where Sr was saying that he had a fractured right hand coming into this fight. And in watching this segment of the fight you don't see him throwing many, if any, right hands. He claimed he was basically one-handed in this fight and it kinda showed. And being able to counter with the right hand is huge in use of the shoulder roll. So Sr was obviously not at his best. Although, I can't say how much it would have changed things. It probably just allowed SRL to be a little more reckless and really get after him.

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            • QADASHBANYAH
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              #26
              Originally posted by Check_hooks
              You can't say that because SRL completely embarrassed Floyd Sr that he would beat Pacquiao. Floyd Sr is slow, has no power and has terrible offense and defense. He was literally a punching bag in that fight and SRL doesn't have extraordinary handspeed.

              Pac vs SRL would be a great fight but Pac has alot of advantages like faster handspeed, more power and better head movement. Footwork is a push. If SRL tried to trade with Pacquiao like he did with Floyd Sr he would get KTFO.
              Pac knocked out hatton and leonard had a beard, fighting with detached retinas etc, LEONARD WOULD KILL PAC LITERALLY LOL!!

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              • Phil Ivey
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                #27
                Originally posted by Check_hooks
                You can't say that because SRL completely embarrassed Floyd Sr that he would beat Pacquiao. Floyd Sr is slow, has no power and has terrible offense and defense. He was literally a punching bag in that fight and SRL doesn't have extraordinary handspeed.

                Pac vs SRL would be a great fight but Pac has alot of advantages like faster handspeed, more power and better head movement. Footwork is a push. If SRL tried to trade with Pacquiao like he did with Floyd Sr he would get KTFO.
                What are you smoking? Please tell me you're mentally ill.

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                • Thread Stealer
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by uglypug
                  lol dman mayweather sr. just might be the ugliest dude in boxing - and there are a lot of ugly ass cats in boxing.
                  Nikolai Valuev and Daniel Zaragoza fight for that title.

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