HBO be bull****ting - Real Canelo Ratings

[RSBonos]

I can't believe how high a rating the Rios fight got. It had very little hype yet it did as much as the hyped up HW MMA tournament show.

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

It could have been 1.4 mill. Not everybody that tunes in has a box.

[outerbrooklyn]

Well HBO is cooking the books to make it look like the guys at the wheel ain't steering the titanic.

The good news is the Brandon Rios hit a home run on SHO and the fight was great. [/QUOTE]

You know that Nielson Ratings only is intended for U.S. figures right? It doesn't give you worldwide figures - you'd have to look that up by each region (Nielson has a Latin branch as well). I'm pretty sure those numbers are right considering Canelo is pretty damn popular in his native country. Also, HBO is a global company that has branches beside the U.S, for instance HBO Latin America and HBO Central Europe. When the network adds up these figures, they have to tally all the ratings from different rating systems.

[jjbj2]

You know that Nielson Ratings only is intended for U.S. figures right? It doesn't give you worldwide figures - you'd have to look that up by each region (Nielson has a Latin branch as well). I'm pretty sure those numbers are right considering Canelo is pretty damn popular in his native country. Also, HBO is a global company that has branches beside the U.S, for instance HBO Latin America and HBO Central Europe. When the network adds up these figures, they have to tally all the ratings from different rating systems.

It is still a bold faced lie. We don't care about world wide figures because what concerns us the most is how is boxing doing in the U.S. Who cares about the ratings in Mexico? What we care is the U.S. and is Canelo really a global star meaning is he as popular in the U.S. as he is in Mexico.

Lying about ratings is bad because it gives unfair advantage to boxers. Canelo can gain an unfair advantage because he can say to his opponent I can bring more U.S. viewers/PPV buyers because you can look at my t.v. ratings in the U.S. Also, Canelo is never going to share his PPV buys in Mexico against any opponent much like how Hatton never shared his PPV in the U.K.

Anyway, lying about the ratings is unethical.

[Antwuan Maxx]

It is still a bold faced lie. We don't care about world wide figures because what concerns us the most is how is boxing doing in the U.S. Who cares about the ratings in Mexico? What we care is the U.S. and is Canelo really a global star meaning is he as popular in the U.S. as he is in Mexico.

Lying about ratings is bad because it gives unfair advantage to boxers. Canelo can gain an unfair advantage because he can say to his opponent I can bring more U.S. viewers/PPV buyers because you can look at my t.v. ratings in the U.S. Also, Canelo is never going to share his PPV buys in Mexico against any opponent much like how Hatton never shared his PPV in the U.K.

Anyway, lying about the ratings is unethical.

This guy from The Boxing Truth recently wrote another article where he gives different figures from another "source" from Nielsen. Only this time, his new source's figures match up with HBO's. He was clearly wrong for calling HBO out, and instead tries to put it on his former "source."

http://theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1982

[jjbj2]

This guy from The Boxing Truth recently wrote another article where he gives different figures from another "source" from Nielsen. Only this time, his new source's figures match up with HBO's. He was clearly wrong for calling HBO out, and instead tries to put it on his former "source."

http://theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1982

No, he is staying consistent to what he said.

"This coincides with the number reported to the public by HBO through various media outlets but doesn’t correspond with the original figure I received in March which cited 920,000 live viewers.

This fact checking explains how and why the perceived ratings have seen a semi-dramatic upswing in recent times. It appears as though a change has occurred in the manner in which the ratings figures are compiled and reported.

I will be discussing with my contact whether I can somehow garner strictly the “live” viewership solely without the “+ same day” as this would unfairly skew the current figures when comparing them to numbers reported in recent years.

The truth of the matter is that most likely the true HBO Boxing Ratings are not “higher” this year incomparison to years past but merely reconfigured to encompass a combined figure not utilized to report ratings last year or years prior.

Like I’ve stated in the past, it’s all spin, propaganda, and manipulating the situation as much as possible to cover-up the truth of the matter.

HBO Boxing executives can attempt to use the DVR or event replay as an excuse as to why true live ratings have plummeted and why it is necessary for them to include these figures within their ratings reports but the truth of the matter is must-see live sports television is just that."

Nielsen is doing some different method in counting live viewerships for a boxing fight. They will add the original fight night, with DVR, and with the replay of the next day to come up with the numbers of "live" viewerships.

So, basically, he is saying that numbers for viewers of how it is counted is different from the last 5, 10, 15, to to 20 years. That is all he is saying in his follow up article. The viewership numbers is now counted with same day viewers, DVR viewers, and replay viewers.

[Something Jr]

If Lujan can put on a show like that more often i'll keep watching

[warp1432]

If the Nielsen ratings have changed from the beginning of the year then why didn't Chavez's old source give him the new numbers? The guy works at the company and doesnt report the new ways of doing things? It seems more likely the first source was wrong in reporting.

He said his old contact was correct, but he couldn't have reported the wrong numbers? HBO looks into a lot of things and ratings is one of them. Instead of this big conspiracy of HBO boosting their live numbers and that's why the ratings are higher, Chavez doesn't take into account a 5th thing:

5. Quality of Match Making

HBO has had a lot stronger match ups in years past and that's why ratings are higher. Showtime's ratings have gone up due to better match making, but HBO's can't? Instead of some agenda to boost HBO's ratings like including "live + same day", I think it's much more likely the old source made a mistake in reporting the wrong numbers.

edit: Also Chavez is incorrect in that HBO still promotes the same way. They've done faceoff for all the major fights this year and that's helped gain viewers imo.

[wizard king]

I recorded it to watch the Judah fight Canelo bores me and so does fighting for someone else's vacant belt against a guy who never fought at that weight class let alone at a catchweight, then I didn't even end up watching it. I hope dvr don't count I was boycotting hbo that night

Sounds exactly like pac lol

[Battle*Hardened]

You guys realize that articl is BS right?