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  • #31
    This should be a good fight no matter who wins. It would be eye opening if Haye pulled off the upset. If Haye beats both Klits he puts himself in the HOF and puts the Klits out so there is a lot of risk involved.

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    • #32
      Ibra (who is just 1 inch shorter than Haye, had better legs, stamina, chin and pretty much same handspeed) tried to move around and counter, but failed miserably. Haye will fail too, except for he'll be KTFO or fuсked-up badly. Easy fight for Wladimir.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mr. Blobby View Post
        Are you serious? They didn't use lateral movement at all, they stood infront of Wlad.

        What lateral movement did Haye employ against Valuev? He just went back back and back again. He was lucky to get a decision for that backwards 12 round jog. Wlad is twice the fighter of Valuev and you know it.

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        • #34
          ''Haye will never fight a Klitschko.''

          - Klitschko nuthuggers








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          • #35
            Originally posted by BoxingTech718 View Post
            This should be a good fight no matter who wins. It would be eye opening if Haye pulled off the upset. If Haye beats both Klits he puts himself in the HOF and puts the Klits out so there is a lot of risk involved.
            I agree.

            However, if that were to happen, these forums would never hear the end of it lol.

            I bet old Fish Eyes (Warren) is spitting blood over this.

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            • #36
              To take away Wlad's jab, Haye will have to control center ring, use head movement/catch, feint, step with Wlad, and counter.

              Wlad can fight and KO Haye easy if he just used lateral movement on the outside the way Ibragimov did. That's easy for him, all he has to do is time the rushes, but he's comfortable. Calvin Brock gave him the best lateral movement, believe it or not, because it was close range, center ring lateral movement, where he wasn't "giving up ground", just circling.

              When Wlad isn't the one in center ring with his opponent's back to the ropes, he becomes a little hesitant and doesn't shoot the jab as crisp and authoritatively as he normally does because he isn't as comfortable. The head movement and catching is for defense. Feinting will get Wlad to backup a little more and be more hesitant and uncomfortable. The stepping with him will make Wlad think "Damn, this guy is timing me" to become a little more hesitant. And finally the countering to make sure Wlad knows the consequences for letting his jab go and make him think twice.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                To take away Wlad's jab, Haye will have to control center ring, use head movement/catch, feint, step with Wlad, and counter.

                Wlad can fight and KO Haye easy if he just used lateral movement on the outside the way Ibragimov did. That's easy for him, all he has to do is time the rushes, but he's comfortable. Calvin Brock gave him the best lateral movement, believe it or not, because it was close range, center ring lateral movement, where he wasn't "giving up ground", just circling.

                When Wlad isn't the one in center ring with his opponent's back to the ropes, he becomes a little hesitant and doesn't shoot the jab as crisp and authoritatively as he normally does because he isn't as comfortable. The head movement and catching is for defense. Feinting will get Wlad to backup a little more and be more hesitant and uncomfortable. The stepping with him will make Wlad think "Damn, this guy is timing me" to become a little more hesitant. And finally the countering to make sure Wlad knows the consequences for letting his jab go and make him think twice.
                So then who the **** are you picking, Q? Don't tease

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                • #38
                  Wlad is going to stay on the outside and control Haye with the jab and if Haye does have some success getting inside the jab Wlad still has the big right hand and a powerful left hook I don't see him avoiding that powerful jab and the big right hand for 12 rds Wlad wins by KO

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RossCA View Post
                    Brutal? You mean as in Mike Tyson type KO? Never! Wlad will never have that ability.
                    Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, Calvin Brock and Eddie Chambers. Go look at the KO's in those fights. Wlad easily has top ten all time heavyweight power. Shame on you. I never saw Tyson render somebody completely unconcious with a grazing left hook the way Wlad did.
                    Last edited by Mr. Invincible; 03-07-2011, 10:54 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
                      To take away Wlad's jab, Haye will have to control center ring, use head movement/catch, feint, step with Wlad, and counter.
                      1) Haye's biggest mistake will be if he actually come to Wlad. He knows how to control ring effectively, and given his size advantage and good jab, Haye will be torn into pieces in 3-4 rounds.

                      2) Haye doesn't use head movement much.

                      3) Who in hell will allow Haye to feint and step with Wlad?

                      4) Haye is too small to counter Wlad, who usually fights with caution.

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