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  • iNDOLiFER
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    #171
    Originally posted by yesir
    if pac is so well know, how he doesnt out sell floyd?

    thank you
    what a ****** reply.... because not everyone watches boxing.. my grandparents know who manny is but they dont watch boxing.... just because floyd out sell manny doesnt mean floyd is more well known... plus half of those sell is from people hoping to see floyd get KO.. thats all LOL... u think floyd have that many fans???? LOL...

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    • Vasyl’s dad
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      #172
      Originally posted by VAW-JR
      That's not the bottom line when there is new testing SINCE she did what she did in that Olympic games.
      Nope.


      You guys want to focus on "Olympic" style testing.

      She actually passed Olympic testing standards.

      Try again.

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      • Vasyl’s dad
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        #173
        Originally posted by tredh
        You need to try again cause you can't have it both ways which is what you are trying to do. If PBF can't ask for testing outside of established rules neither can Manny ask for weight extra weight penalties outside of established rules. Manny said he goes by what the commission says. Well the commission has weight penalty rules in place. So why is it ok for Manny to go beyond those rules but not PBF? Shane Mosley has never failed a drug test. So you are proving nothing with saying Manny has passed all test given to him.

        If Mosley can pass the same drug tests with PEDs in system that Manny and PBF has passed how good are those drug tests?
        The commission rules allow for a penalty up to 20% of the purse.

        Manny was within the boundaries of the commission rules.


        Roy Jones failed a drug test.
        James Toney failed a drug test.
        Fernarndo Vargas failed a drug.

        So on and so forth.

        If the standards are not up to par,

        how did they fail?

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        • tredh
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          #174
          Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
          The commission rules allow for a penalty up to 20% of the purse.

          Manny was within the boundaries of the commission rules.


          Roy Jones failed a drug test.
          James Toney failed a drug test.
          Fernarndo Vargas failed a drug.

          So on and so forth.

          If the standards are not up to par,

          how did they fail?
          What you are failing to understand is that the weight penalty is not for the fighter to ask for a specific amount. The penalty is paid to the commission cause their rule was broken. So Manny is not within the boundaries of the commission by asking for $10 mill that penalty would be added on top of the commission penalty.

          I'm not gonna even BS with I don't know how they failed and Mosely passed. All I know is that Mosley passed those same tests with PEDs in his system. So if some pass and some fail that still show that the test is not good.

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          • pasawayako
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            #175
            Everyone in the world already knew that floyd is a coward george.

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            • tredh
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              #176
              As a man I stand corrected on part of my post. Manny would get paid part of the penalty that is set by the COMMSSION.


              NAC 467.522 Forfeiture for failure to make weight. (NRS 467.030)
              1. An unarmed combatant who fails to make the weight agreed upon in his bout agreement forfeits:
              (a) Twenty-five percent of his purse if no lesser amount is set by the Commission’s representative; or
              (b) A lesser amount set by the Executive Director and approved by the Commission,
              Ê unless the weight difference is 1 pound or less.
              2. A forfeit must be divided equally between the other unarmed combatant and the Commission.
              3. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 3 of NAC 467.476 and subsection 2 of NAC 467.7956, if, during the 1 hour following the time of weighing in, an unarmed combatant is able to make the weight or weighs 1 pound or less outside the agreed limits, no forfeit may be imposed or fine assessed upon him.
              [Athletic Comm’n, § 17, eff. 4-25-78]—(NAC A 12-13-82; 11-2-88; 12-2-97; R070-01, 8-31-2001; R090-07, 12-4-2007)


              No where in the NSAC rules does it say a fighter can name the penalty amount for the opponent not making weight. After reading that you can not tell me that Manny is not asking for extra outside the commission rules. They both asking for extra stuff.

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                #177
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                When did he agree with that?

                Arum and Koncz has contradicted those statements.

                Arum told La Times that they offered a 14 day cut-off.

                Pac said he agreed to OST with no cutoff "just to see if that's the reason Floyd doesn't want to fight"

                Koncz then later said they offered a 7 day cut-off.

                All 3 people same camp, all 3 different stories.

                Kind of weird, but whatever.
                Apparently that's not weird but infact a compromise

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  As a man I stand corrected on part of my post. Manny would get paid part of the penalty that is set by the COMMSSION.


                  NAC 467.522 Forfeiture for failure to make weight. (NRS 467.030)
                  1. An unarmed combatant who fails to make the weight agreed upon in his bout agreement forfeits:
                  (a) Twenty-five percent of his purse if no lesser amount is set by the Commission’s representative; or
                  (b) A lesser amount set by the Executive Director and approved by the Commission,
                  Ê unless the weight difference is 1 pound or less.
                  2. A forfeit must be divided equally between the other unarmed combatant and the Commission.
                  3. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 3 of NAC 467.476 and subsection 2 of NAC 467.7956, if, during the 1 hour following the time of weighing in, an unarmed combatant is able to make the weight or weighs 1 pound or less outside the agreed limits, no forfeit may be imposed or fine assessed upon him.
                  [Athletic Comm’n, § 17, eff. 4-25-78]—(NAC A 12-13-82; 11-2-88; 12-2-97; R070-01, 8-31-2001; R090-07, 12-4-2007)


                  No where in the NSAC rules does it say a fighter can name the penalty amount for the opponent not making weight. After reading that you can not tell me that Manny is not asking for extra outside the commission rules. They both asking for extra stuff.

                  What you're not getting though,

                  is this.

                  Manny is asking for something that is completely within the rules of the commission. Nowhere does it say a fighter can't make a request. It only says that the amount is set by the Executive Director and approved by the commission.

                  Floyd is asking to make his own rules. Manny is looking to abide by the ones already in place.


                  Mannys request - part of the commissions rules.
                  Floyds request - part of his own rules.
                  Mannys request - based on actual events.
                  Floyds request - based on nothing.

                  Try again.
                  Last edited by Vasyl’s dad; 03-03-2011, 04:06 PM.

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                  • Chuckguy
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    Exactly!

                    Pac had to sleep in a tree when it rained to avoid being swept away by flood waters.

                    He had to sell stolen cigarettes in order for him and his family to eat.

                    His father had to cook Pac's pet dog one day just so they had something to eat.

                    These are all true stories. Do u really think given all Pac has been thru that he is really afraid of fighting little ole Floyd? LOL. Pac would fight him in a best of 3 competition in one night!
                    and FLoyd grew up int the ****** in Michigan with drugs and gangs around and a drug dealing family
                    whats your point
                    the reason why they arent fighting isnt because one is afraid of the other
                    its because they are both super divas and want to show the world who is boss
                    plain and simple nothing more nothing less!

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by iNDOLiFER
                      what a ****** reply.... because not everyone watches boxing.. my grandparents know who manny is but they dont watch boxing.... just because floyd out sell manny doesnt mean floyd is more well known... plus half of those sell is from people hoping to see floyd get KO.. thats all LOL... u think floyd have that many fans???? LOL...
                      a ****** comment followed by another ****** comment
                      hahaha
                      wow
                      dude face the facts Floyd outsells Manny easily
                      the numbers arent that off but he easily outsells manny
                      if people really buy a floyd fight to see him lose then
                      1. that shuts up teh pac fan boys that say he fights nobodies because if they are paying $49.99 and up to see a man lose then he must be fighting someone that poses a threat
                      and
                      2. that goes to show you just how powerfull Floyd really is. If people are willing to waste their money on a fighter they dont like.
                      I cant stand Calzaghe and I never paid to watch him fight
                      like my homeboy Former San Francisco 49er coach Mike Singletary said
                      "Can't do it! Won't do it"!

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