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  • V.WEBB
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    #131
    Originally posted by tredh
    How do you feel about Manny's answer(You just have to believe I am all natural) about taking the tests at the Mosley press conference?
    Be prepared for a long paragraph, and a video...NOT answering your direct question.

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      #132
      Originally posted by megas30
      He's still bitter with blacks after the Ali fiasco in Zaire...lol. He never had anything good to say about black fighters.
      What race would you consider James Page?

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        #133
        Originally posted by VAW-JR
        Funny how this "PED" isn't on the banned substance list in Nevada.
        Funny how Floyd hasn't fought outside of Nevada since....

        And just because Nevada hasn't banned it (completely) doesn't change the FACT that it is a performance enhancing drug. Anything that allows you to hit harder than you normally can is a PED, plain and simple.


        But please show me evidence of all the states that its banned in. Rule of thumb, don't cite Wikipedia as a credible educational source. ANYONE can get on there and edit all the information for ANY thing.
        Well, for one- it's illegal in Nevada within a week of the fight BUT it's not on the WADA list of banned substances, so they don't test for it:

        Floyd Mayweather has hands full as focus falls on pain-relief drug

        Owen Slot, Chief Sports Reporter and Ron Lewis in Las Vegas
        Floyd Mayweather’s suspect hands are viewed as such a potential weakness by Ricky Hatton’s camp that they have requested that he be banned from using the anaesthetic, lidocaine.

        In the long build-up to tonight’s bout, Mayweather has repeatedly denied that his hands might cause him a problem. However, the Mayweathers are unhappy that lidocaine has been specifically identified as a drug that cannot be used.

        Hatton himself is concerned that Mayweather may use his hands as an excuse if he loses his title tonight. However, his camp agreed that the priority was to prevent the American from any illegal advantage.

        The Hattons maintained their focus on this issue yesterday at another prebout meeting when they wanted to ensure that Mayweather would not be able to protect his hands with an unfair use of tape.

        Lidocaine is an anaesthetic used locally to relieve pain, particularly by dentists. However, it has been employed in boxing to relieve injured or weak hands, most notably by Oscar De La Hoya, the promoter tonight, in his bout against Bernard Hopkins three years ago.

        The issue here in Las Vegas has been whether or not lidocaine was permissible. The drug is not on the banned list of the World AntiDoping Agency (Wada), yet it has been ruled illegal by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), under whose authority the contest is being run.

        The Hattons’ concern was that, although NSAC bans the drug, if the urine samples that the boxers are obliged to give afterwards were sent to a Wada-accredited laboratory, then lidocaine might not be tested for.


        At the bout organisational meeting run by NSAC on Wednesday morning, Gareth Williams, Hatton’s lawyer, asked Keith Kizer, the NSAC executive director, if lidocaine would be tested for.

        “We’d all seen the stories about Mayweather’s hands and we had heard rumours that he uses lidocaine,” Williams said. “So we just wanted to make sure that they complied with the rules and that it would be tested for.”

        The request did not go down well with John Hornewer, Mayweather’s attorney. Williams said: “He responded by saying: ‘Well, what about grappling?’ I quite facetiously responded: ‘I didn’t think you could test for that.’” Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

        Mayweather’s hand problems have been long documented but they resurfaced a fortnight ago in an edition of the 24/7 television documentary that showed the boxer having a wax paraffin treatment and quietly acknowledging the issue.

        “She [my doctor] thinks I shouldn’t be fighting too much more,” he said. “My body’s tearing down. My left hand is tearing down. And I never used to have hand problems until it started happening later in my career as a professional.”

        After Mayweather failed to get under Hatton’s skin with a ******* of abuse during the build-up to this bout, his uncle and trainer, Roger, took a step back into the gutter in the final episode of 24/7, claiming that Hatton could be killed in the ring. It seemed just loathsome street talk, but probably had a smarter motive: insulting Hatton had not unsettled the Briton, so why not try to upset his family?

        “Even if he [Hatton] comes out alive, he’s going to be so f***ed up, it won’t make any difference,” Roger Mayweather said. On Thursday evening in Las Vegas, Hatton’s parents, Ray and Carol, witnessed a private preview showing of the programme and were distinctly unhappy. Ray said: “When the spotlight is on the sport; it’s not called for. It’s thuggery, isn’t it? The knockers of the sport can now say, ‘There you go. Told you so.’ ”

        The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.

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          #134
          Originally posted by fcastro1
          yet another video and you disprove it. thats why you are a typical ***** defend floyd regardless.
          Bring something to the discussion for once. I asked the man to SHOW me what States xylocaine was banned it. And for your information, its not even banned in Nevada...I got that FACT straight from the mouth of Keith Kizer. He the Executive Director of NSAC.

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            #135
            Originally posted by VAW-JR
            I didn't miss anything, I pay close attention. What YOU have missed is the times in which he said that he doesn't want to me tested. No surprise there though.



            What do you think I'm a 12 year old? Dancing in the street? Get that nonsense out of here. The fact is, rather you or the other grown men that follow Manny expect it or not, Manny has NEVER agreed to full blood testing and the way it looks, he won't. Manny was JUST asked this and straight said, " you gotta believe me, I'm all natural.."...what? If he's all nature he wouldn't have a problem doing the full testing from the jump...but uh...keep believing him.

            No boxing organization or state commission requires it,

            so why should he?

            Because one guy is afraid of him?

            Even though hes apparently, "one dimensional and ordinary", an "easy fight and easy work", fights come forward brawlers who are slow, shot and weight drained.

            Why?

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              #136
              Originally posted by ThePrince
              Funny how Floyd hasn't fought outside of Nevada since....
              What other states ban it, you missed that question.

              Originally posted by ThePrince
              And just because Nevada hasn't banned it (completely) doesn't change the FACT that it is a performance enhancing drug. Anything that allows you to hit harder than you normally can is a PED, plain and simple.

              Well, for one- it's illegal in Nevada within a week of the fight BUT it's not on the WADA list of banned substances, so they don't test for it:
              So, if its banned the week of the fight, what's the issue?

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                #137
                Originally posted by Johnny Chingas

                No boxing organization or state commission requires it,

                so why should he?

                Because one guy is afraid of him?

                Even though hes apparently, "one dimensional and ordinary", an "easy fight and easy work", fights come forward brawlers who are slow, shot and weight drained.

                Why?
                Yawn.

                You are the same guy that would rather catch a criminal AFTER the crime, rather than prevent it.

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                • tredh
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Johnny Chingas

                  No boxing organization or state commission requires it,

                  so why should he?

                  Because one guy is afraid of him?

                  Even though hes apparently, "one dimensional and ordinary", an "easy fight and easy work", fights come forward brawlers who are slow, shot and weight drained.

                  Why?
                  No boxing organization or state commission requires $10 mill for being overweight. So you said that to say what exactly?

                  They both requesting things outside of boxing organizations and state commissions

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by VAW-JR
                    I didn't miss anything, I pay close attention. What YOU have missed is the times in which he said that he doesn't want to me tested. No surprise there though.



                    What do you think I'm a 12 year old? Dancing in the street? Get that nonsense out of here. The fact is, rather you or the other grown men that follow Manny expect it or not, Manny has NEVER agreed to full blood testing and the way it looks, he won't. Manny was JUST asked this and straight said, " you gotta believe me, I'm all natural.."...what? If he's all nature he wouldn't have a problem doing the full testing from the jump...but uh...keep believing him.
                    What's wrong with saying 'I'm all natural'? If he said something like 'nah, **** a drug test, dope all day, baby' or 'I'm not thinking about boxing. I'm going on vacation, taking a couple of years off' then yeah, I'd say there was an issue.

                    But he's on record saying he agreed to any test, any day... and that's the only thing keeping Floyd on vacation, right? So why not call Manny's bluff. Look at the **** storm that was created by Floyd posting videos from the 90s of Pac losing. Why not do the same for Pac saying he agreed to everything and get the fight on. I mean, he is thinking about boxing and not taking a couple of years off right? He does want the fight?

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by VAW-JR
                      Yawn.

                      You are the same guy that would rather catch a criminal AFTER the crime, rather than prevent it.
                      Yawn all you want.

                      But its just strange to see a supposed fan of the sport such as yourself, follow Floyds claim to "clean up the sport", but not ask that he sign up to do year round random testing.

                      I thought you wanted better procedures in place for the betterment of boxing.

                      Floyd doing so, would make bold statement that he is indeed serious about this.

                      But, as always, he says one thing, and does another.

                      You're the type of person that would rather suck on a mans balls than punch them.

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