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  • There is separation now from the Klitschko era to 2022...where we still do not have a single definitive heavyweight (Fury was a drug cheat who gave up his belts, AJ v Wilder never happened, Fury v AJ never happened and Fury v Usyk is not happening) so that tells us something. Wlad and Vitali brought stability in terms of who we can regard as top heavyweights so that's something which is missed but when comparing to fighters from the 70s, particularly the best which were Ali, Foreman and Frazier, neither Klit can hold a candle.

    Vitali of course had a terrific chin while Wlad was the complete opposite. Both guys had limited ability and were aided with their immense size and reach but that wouldnt work against any of the three in their prime. Wlad would probbaly be stopped along the way by likes of Shavers or even Lyle, let alone challenge for a title. Vitali could probably hug and jab his way to a few wins, I think he'd be too big and strong for Frazier but Foremany ends up cutting him and Ali outpoints him. I think Shavers would probably end up with a win too.

    Neither man is a great in the 70s.

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    • Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post
      theyd be top heavy weights but wouldnt run the division like they do now

      vitali would be more successful.....a match up like wlad versus shavers would be criminal..wlad chin would get shattered
      ^^^^^^^ this guy is smart

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      • Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post

        ^^^^^^^ this guy is smart
        That guy is a idiot like you all those 70s were outdated ******

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        • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

          That guy is a idiot like you all those 70s were outdated ******
          debate, why would they be great in the 70's? Vitali I could see, but Wlad chin is trash

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          • Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post

            debate, why would they be great in the 70's? Vitali I could see, but Wlad chin is trash
            Well cause like I said the 70s were outdated you can watch klits era and see they were more advanced like why are you asking ****** questions and did you ever think wlad not that tough cause he was facing more tech fighters who punch with better tech... that doesn't mean he isn't tough it means he is facing people who know how to punch correctly on top of being heavy in weight idiots

            ike look at earnie wasnt he known for hitting hard back then his tech was trash he hit ali 8 clean times with his best shot and ali never fell its no way ali could take 8 clean shots from these 2 cause their tech is way better and they hit harder

            Drop wlad in 70s have him take 8 shots like ali he wouldnt fall either he would be looked at as tough wouldnt he of course but as I explained earn tech was trash and he was facing people who wasn't known to be that tough he is overrated his power isn't top 20 by anybody who can see good
            Last edited by Ascended; 09-20-2022, 01:00 PM.

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            • Originally posted by moneytheman View Post

              Well cause like I said the 70s were outdated you can watch klits era and see they were more advanced like why are you asking ****** questions and did you ever think wlad not that tough cause he was facing more tech fighters who punch with better tech... you people are so slow

              Like look at earnie wasnt he known for hitting hard back then his tech was trash he hit ali 8 clean times with his best shot and ali never fell its no way ali could take 8 clean shots from these 2 cause their tech is way better and they hit harder
              if they were fighting in the 70's it would be the same era of training and boxing and Vitali hit chris Byrd how many times and he never fell?

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              • Originally posted by LarryX.... View Post

                if they were fighting in the 70's it would be the same era of training and boxing and Vitali hit chris Byrd how many times and he never fell?
                Chris was the toughest/flashiest mid carder hw its ever been he is a rare example of small hw who could take hard shots from a way bigger person why your using him is odd

                And no the training wouldn't be the same cause this is matching them how they fought so the klits would have more advanced movements why are you trying to flip the topic to how you want it oh cause you know im right and you know the 70s were less advanced well I already know im right I always am here with you crazy people

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                • Vitali def wouldve. Wlad not so much.

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                  • If they were living and training in the 70's, they would be entirely different fighters to what they where in the modern era.

                    Even still I think the overall condition of the 70's heavyweights was for sure, greater than the opponents they competed against in the modern era. It is common knowledge that soon as the 2000's came around, Heavyweights started to drop in their overall condition.

                    The standard has gotten so bad, that these days any Heavyweights that turns up in condition is accused of performance enhancing drugs. .

                    The Kiltschko's would not be 240 + pounds in the 70's, if they are going to compete in that era. They have to live and train like the fighters of those times. So they won't be chugging down any sports supplements and training at high tech gymnasiums.

                    I think they would both still be good fighters, and they would cause people problems. Simply because they can box, from Long range.

                    Wladimir Kiltschko may struggle to compete with the pace and endurance of the fighters from the 70's, but Vitali Kiltschko would handle this area much better.

                    Only really old school fighters could travel back in time and be competitive. Fighters like Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson if? You analyse their training techniques, predominately they were living and training still like old school fighters. There training even at their peak mainly consisted of old school methodologies.

                    Others fighters who also can classed as old school fighters are, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Floyd Mayweather Junior.

                    When we talk about these hypothetical match ups, it is only really these type of modern day fighters who have shown evidence that they could fight in any era 'And maintain their form'.

                    Fighters like Canelo Alvarez would not be able to travel back in time and maintain his form. Because his condition and training is heavily reliant on modern training techniques, also one of his greatest tricks is doing big weight cuts 'And exploiting the day before weigh in rule'. Alvarez would have a even more difficult time trying to lose 20 pounds before weigh in and then regaining that weight within hours 'While competing under the same day weigh in rule'.

                    Floyd Mayweather in comparison, a fighter who's training is influenced by old school methodologies 'And he was a fighter who did not weight drain himself'. Mayweather could be transported back to the 1960's and still maintain his form.

                    I have brought all these points up before, and I do find these hypothetical match ups banal. Especially when people don't really take into consideration the landscape and environment of different era's 'Even though these are 100% valid variables to consider'.

                    I rate Wladimir Kiltschko, I think he is a greater Champion than all current active Heavyweights in today's era.







                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 09-20-2022, 01:17 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                      If they were living and training in the 70's, they would be entirely different fighters to what they where in the modern era.

                      Even still I think the overall condition of the 70's heavyweights was for sure, greater than the opponents they competed against in the modern era. It is common knowledge that soon as the 2000's came around, Heavyweights started to drop in their overall condition.

                      The standard has gotten so bad, that these days any Heavyweights that turns up in condition is accused of performance enhancing drugs. .

                      The Kiltschko's would not be 240 + pounds in the 70's, if they are going to compete in that era. They have to live and train like the fighters of those times. So they won't be chugging down any sports supplements and training at high tech gymnasiums.

                      I think they would both still be good fighters, and they would cause people problems. Simply because they can box, from Long range.

                      Wladimir Kiltschko may struggle to compete with the pace and endurance of the fighters from the 70's, but Vitali Kiltschko would handle this area much better.

                      Only really old school fighters could travel back in time and be competitive. Fighters like Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson if? You analyse their training techniques, predominately they were living and training still like old school fighters. There training even at their peak mainly consisted of old school methodologies.

                      Others fighters who also can classed as old school fighters are, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Carl Froch, Floyd Mayweather Junior.

                      When we talk about these hypothetical match ups, it is only really these type of modern day fighters who have shown evidence that they could fight in any era 'And maintain their form'.

                      Fighters like Canelo Alvarez would not be able to travel back in time and maintain his form. Because his condition and training is heavily reliant on modern training techniques, also one of his greatest tricks is doing big weight cuts 'And exploiting the day before weigh in rule'. Alvarez would have a even more difficult time trying to lose 20 pounds before weigh in and then regaining that weight within hours 'While competing under the same day weigh in rule'.

                      Floyd Mayweather in comparison, a fighter who's training is influenced by old school methodologies 'And he was a fighter who did not weight drain himself'. Mayweather could be transported back to the 1960's and still maintain his form.

                      I have brought all these points up before, and I do find these hypothetical match ups banal. Especially when people don't really take into consideration the landscape and environment of different era's 'Even though these are 100% valid variables to consider'.

                      I rate Wladimir Kiltschko, I think he is a greater Champion than all current active Heavyweights in today's era.






                      Good job doing that crazy stuff followers do of changing stuff to fit your narrative cause you know modern would dominate that goes for every modern you named from 80s- after would dominate 70s which is easy to see

                      The topic is as its said how would these boxers do you slow crazy person so that means nothing you said matters that means dropping them into the era as is
                      Last edited by Ascended; 09-20-2022, 01:32 PM.

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