Judah Says Pacquiao's Fights Are Possibly Staged

[Jim Jeffries]

Judah didn't have such an easy time with Clottey (or Cotto for that matter) to the point where he claimed he couldn't see just to get out of the fight. The ease with which Pac's beating these guys may be baffling, but the extreme amount of punishment they're taking (save maybe Clottey) makes the staged notion absurd.

[Bushbaby]

yes i know that pac has mostly been fighting come forward fighters lately, but that's also because those guys not only bring the most money, but that they are also relevant because of their names, and the achievements/resume they carry with them... that and they are actually fcking great fighters until hindsight decides to kick in!

yes, clottey was top rank so what? you're talking as if clottey had no chance at beating pac. the dude was built like a tank, and he was just waiting for some openings and/or pac's stamina to betray him. it wasn't that clottey had no chance, pac just made sure he had no chance (until later rounds) by playing the perfect game.
....clottey also being known to fold during his biggest/closest fights didn't help the case either.

owning myself? lmao think again, bro. unlike you, who's too narrow minded to actually see the bigger picture, i try to view both sides. when, i debate, i try to actually be emphatic of the point the other side is trying to make. i know this is a bit new to you, but this is how educated debate goes. you don't just stick to your point and ramble while ignoring the counter point, that's called an immature argument. if that is what you are actually searching for... i'm sorry but you're better off talking with the other posters, i'm pretty sure alot of them would be delighted to join you.

I bet U thought U sounded real smart here,didn't U??Well,allow me to break it down for U as simply as I'm able.My point in my 1st post that U decided to argue was that Pacman has been matched well,correct??Alright,that is a fact.Ur so called counter point was this:Why because he's been fighting mostly come forward fighters??Followed by loads of excuses about why he did it.Financial gain,known fighters & so forth.

U didn't counter anything bro.All I said was he's been matched well.U admitted that he's fought mostly come forward guys.U've also made excuses calling them fan friendly & well known.then U made up an excuse as to why he fought Clottey,(who isn't well known)& plods forward with a high guard not throwing punches.

Like I said well matched.
U:why?Because he's been fighting mostly come forward fighters??Check.
These fighters make sense financially?Check.
But Clottey isn't well known,he's top rank though & basically a come forward fighter.Check.The conclusion,U admitted what I stated,with loads of excuses.In short no counter points,just strengthening my case.

[tibbar]

Judah's an idiot.

i agree, but your sig is gay by the way, or you really are?

[joelab75]

yeah margarito fight was staged. they told Margarito that Pac would busted his eye socket and need a surgery. and Arum told Margarito that he had to come out of the boxing ring like he got hit with the baseball bat..thats how they staged the fight!

[ummeed]

I bet U thought U sounded real smart here,didn't U??Well,allow me to break it down for U as simply as I'm able.My point in my 1st post that U decided to argue was that Pacman has been matched well,correct??Alright,that is a fact.

you lost the validity of your post right here. no, "pac being well matched" is not a fact. that statement is based entirely on opinions, i may or may not agree with those but that wouldn't change the errr... fact that that statement is not a err.. fact.

Ur so called counter point was this:Why because he's been fighting mostly come forward fighters??Followed by loads of excuses about why he did it.Financial gain,known fighters & so forth.

U didn't counter anything bro.All I said was he's been matched well.U admitted that he's fought mostly come forward guys.U've also made excuses calling them fan friendly & well known.then U made up an excuse as to why he fought Clottey,(who isn't well known)& plods forward with a high guard not throwing punches.

Like I said well matched.
U:why?Because he's been fighting mostly come forward fighters??Check.
These fighters make sense financially?Check.
But Clottey isn't well known,he's top rank though & basically a come forward fighter.Check.The conclusion,U admitted what I stated,with loads of excuses.In short no counter points,just strengthening my case.

lmao no no no. you failed to understand my post, i wasn't making an excuse as to why he was "well matched", what i said was he was being matched not primarily because those guys were come forward fighters, but because of the legacy (and money) they bring. simply put, he was being matched with the opponents with great accomplishments/known/great divisional rankings/fan friendly (read: legacy)... them being mostly come forward is just a coincidence.

yes, i accepted that most of his recent fights were come forward fighters but i don't agree that they were picked primarily because of their "come forwardedness". i agreed that he was "well matched" but not in the criterion that you were implying.

clottey is a come forward fighter? define come forward because from my understanding (and i'm not saying my perception of come forward is accurate), clottey is not a come forward fighter at all, and he obviously did not "come forward" during his fight with pac.

if merely stating the points you were trying to make to let you know that i do understand them means "strengthening your case" then yes, i guess DID strengthen your case... smh...

[BoZz]

Clottey didn't do shyt because he couldn't...and pretty much gave up...

If the Margarito fight was staged, I wonder if 2 swelled up eyes and facial fractures were part of the plan...


Pac has just fought the right opponents...Clottey's style is HORRIBLE for Pac and Margarito's slow as hell...

That's not true,every time clottey threw he landed so that means he could but it's a mistery why he didn't do more even tho he knew that pacs head snapped back every time he threw his jab..clottey had nothing to worry abour his defense was good and after the fight there were no signs of that he was in a tough fight ..the clottey fight was very su****ious and it doesn't help the fact that he's one of arums '******'.

[Bushbaby]

you lost the validity of your post right here. no, "pac being well matched" is not a fact. that statement is based entirely on opinions, i may or may not agree with those but that wouldn't change the errr... fact that that statement is not a err.. fact.




lmao no no no. you failed to understand my post, i wasn't making an excuse as to why he was "well matched", what i said was he was being matched not primarily because those guys were come forward fighters, but because of the legacy (and money) they bring. simply put, he was being matched with the opponents with great accomplishments/known/great divisional rankings/fan friendly (read: legacy)... them being mostly come forward is just a coincidence.

yes, i accepted that most of his recent fights were come forward fighters but i don't agree that they were picked primarily because of their "come forwardedness". i agreed that he was "well matched" but not in the criterion that you were implying.

clottey is a come forward fighter? define come forward because from my understanding (and i'm not saying my perception of come forward is accurate), clottey is not a come forward fighter at all, and he obviously did not "come forward" during his fight with pac.

if merely stating the points you were trying to make to let you know that i do understand them means "strengthening your case" then yes, i guess DID strengthen your case... smh...

Clottey does come forward.He holds his hands up & simply walks U down.If that man threw 50 more punches a round,he'd probably be undefeated.But I do agree that the fighters Pacman have been fighting were Not picked primarily for their come forward style,but also because they were not impressive prior to fighting Pacman,it is what it is though.Big names coming of mediocre(at best)performances.

Ohh & when I said a fact,I was refering to me saying he's been well matched.Not that it was a fact that he was.

[Ryannn]

The ped's part has absolutely no credibility.Neither does the bums part.Neither does the staged part for that matter.But he has been matched well.

clottey was a pretty ok fight. don't really mind margarito cause of the size advantage. mosley fight is crap.

"well matched" might be exaggerating a bit. he has a pretty damn good resume, probably the best of any active fighter. but its obvious he's starting to lose some steam.

[Ryannn]

That's not true,every time clottey threw he landed so that means he could but it's a mistery why he didn't do more even tho he knew that pacs head snapped back every time he threw his jab..clottey had nothing to worry abour his defense was good and after the fight there were no signs of that he was in a tough fight ..the clottey fight was very su****ious and it doesn't help the fact that he's one of arums '******'.

god damn, are you ******ed?

[Ryannn]

Clottey does come forward.He holds his hands up & simply walks U down.If that man threw 50 more punches a round,he'd probably be undefeated.But I do agree that the fighters Pacman have been fighting were Not picked primarily for their come forward style,but also because they were not impressive prior to fighting Pacman,it is what it is though.Big names coming of mediocre(at best)performances.

Ohh & when I said a fact,I was refering to me saying he's been well matched.Not that it was a fact that he was.

best in house match ups. it isn't cause of their performance.