Judah Says Pacquiao's Fights Are Possibly Staged

[Bushbaby]

Nope. For crying out loud, you have fools here that strongly believe Pac is on Roids and will never change their mind, so what makes you think they will change their opinion on Pac if he beats Martinez? Haters are gonna hate, and I'm sure the guy you're responding to were most likely talking about the Pac-haters, not the real boxing fans.

Bro,this topic in particular is truly tread & poll worthy.Pacman would have gotten miles more credit for beating Martinez than Margarito.Every nay sayer(me included would eat crow).I believe this completely.For instance,I was never a Floyd fan,but I said if he fought Mosley,I'd give him his due,which I have.

[pistol whip]

Nope. For crying out loud, you have fools here that strongly believe Pac is on Roids and will never change their mind, so what makes you think they will change their opinion on Pac if he beats Martinez? Haters are gonna hate, and I'm sure the guy you're responding to were most likely talking about the Pac-haters, not the real boxing fans.

The problem is that even real boxing fans are buying into the roid hype and it's sad because it tells me that the average "Boxing fan" doesn't know shhiitt about boxing!

[brick wall]

Wait,U don't think that if Pacman beat Martinez at 154,that would have satisfied the entire boxing community??That doesn't even make sense bro.Most Pacman fans,(not all)are satisfied with him beating Margarito.Why wouldn't them & the fans that weren't satisfied with it & boxing fans like me that are telling U Martinez would have been better not give him credit for beating Martinez,a fighter that was no less than #2 at 154.How do U defend him for fighting Margarito then say he wouldn't get credit for beating Martinez who is clearly the better fighter right now??

a lot of people will say martinez was weight drained for going down from 160 to 154...you should know that by now. if cotto was weight drained at 145 how much more martinez at 154?

[Bushbaby]

Because ever since pac started his run it's been excuse after excuse after excuse. Now it's just turned into taking perfectly good opponents for any other champion fighter and conviniently making them bums over night. As it was said earlier imagine if Andre berto, Timmy bradley, or Amir Khan had beat Margarito, Clotty, and Mosely back to back to back! Would you be on your soap box clammoring for them to fight "middleweight" Champion sergio martinez? I doubt it!

Yeah,nice try,Martinez was available when Margarito was signed to fight Pacman.So was the Punisher,hell even Dzinziruk was available.Matter of fact so was the 5-6 K-9,a real 154lb champ.

Ohh yeah,before ya'll try to,I have never for an instant bought into the roid issue.It seemed & still does that that was just an excuse for Floyd to not fight Pacman.

[pistol whip]

Bro,this topic in particular is truly tread & poll worthy.Pacman would have gotten miles more credit for beating Martinez than Margarito.Every nay sayer(me included would eat crow).I believe this completely.For instance,I was never a Floyd fan,but I said if he fought Mosley,I'd give him his due,which I have.

The thing is pac has already accomplished what you give floyd credit for 3 times over. He fought Barrera, Morales, and Marquez in weight classes that were natural for him and beat them. Fighting in the welterweight and Junior Middleweight divisions are an extention of his skills.

In order for Mayweather to accomplish what pacs accomplished he would have to fight in the Super middleweight and LHW divisions and beat multi world champions. You do see the diffrence?

[Bushbaby]

a lot of people will say martinez was weight drained for going down from 160 to 154...you should know that by now. if cotto was weight drained at 145 how much more martinez at 154?

Oh,I guess then.Like people didn't say Margarito didn't deserve that fight,or that Mosley does not deserve this 1 right??Team Pacman chose 2 of the worst opponents in his last 2 fights,period.better options were available.

[hanzoh74]

Pac wins easily by UD. You agree or not? Whats exciting in that? From fights against Hoya, Clottey, Margo... really, it has been predictable. You guys know a boxer who has been fed bums because trainers afraid there champ's is gonna lose? Arum must be a big fan of Rocky.

and who do u think can give Pac fits in the WW divison?? Berto will be massacred by all of those men u mentioned even if u include Bradley or Marquez...just STFU will yah

[llamas1]

Jeez, what a bunch of crap!!!! Ok, Zab, your'e up next!!!

Margarito Chased Pac around for 12 rounds.... Just outclassed.

Clottey could have put up a better fight but he didnt want to get hit.... So he covered up... All night long..

[Bushbaby]

The thing is pac has already accomplished what you give floyd credit for 3 times over. He fought Barrera, Morales, and Marquez in weight classes that were natural for him and beat them. Fighting in the welterweight and Junior Middleweight divisions are an extention of his skills.

In order for Mayweather to accomplish what pacs accomplished he would have to fight in the Super middleweight and LHW divisions and beat multi world champions. You do see the diffrence?

I don't care what Floyd has accomplished,or what he has to do to catch Pacman,I was talking about 1 instance where i gave props where I said I was.I gave Pacman full credit for beating the featherweights U named.But his choice of opponents above 130,outside of Hatton,Oscar & Clottey,Cotto to an extent could have been better.

[Chuckguy]

I can see where Zab would see that but that is something that is too hard to predict and stage. One punch in the right spot at the right time can knock anyone out.
Its like quite a few posters have said
Its perfect matchmaking for Pac.

Like Ive always said I want to see pac against a boxer not brawler or defensive minded fighter with speed and some power.
That will never happen cause when it does its lights out on the Pac show