One is a su****ion--PEDS--I became su****ious with his refusal to submit, because i still can't see a reason for him to refuse. The second one--Observation--he's been fighting the best top rank fighters who are big names, who are coming off terrible losses, so that still not an indicator of how good he is. I want to see him in the ring with a live dog.....meaning someone with movements, defense and speed, not necessarily powerful, but knows how to punch.
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clottey, a past prime margarito and a washed up mosley are handpicked opponents only for somebody who is really a great fighter. put those 3 against somebody like berto even at this point in their careers and they will suddenly become legit opponents. i even doubt that berto can get past those 3 in a consecutive fashion. and if he does, everybody will jump into his bandwagon for sure.Comment
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Nah homey,Martinez alone would have satisfied me.And Margarito was definitely not the most skilled at the time & I don't have to give Pacman a pass for fighting Margarito & now Mosley.Just because he tried to make a fight with Floyd,sorry.If U want to,then go ahead,but I don't have to give him a pass for it.
You do realize that those are some high ass expectations that nobody in boxing even comes close to acheiving. I wish every top PFP champion would be taking on two fighters that have won 7 diffrent championships in3 diffrent weight classes combined back to back. Lets also not forget being outweighed by 12 pounds or more come fight night.
I know Manny is #1 PFP but those are some ridiculous ass expectations. And I highly doubt a win of martinez would of shut anyone up, they would of just said that he's in his mid 30's and he was just another old washed up fighter.Comment
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Couple questions how is refusing to take a test that nobody has ever taken and is not required by any boxing commission suspecious? by default wouldn't that make every fighter who has ever fought in a boxing match after the test was brought up su****ious as well? If you can't see why he would refuse it then why isn't everyone else in boxing doing it?Comment
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Wait,U don't think that if Pacman beat Martinez at 154,that would have satisfied the entire boxing community??That doesn't even make sense bro.Most Pacman fans,(not all)are satisfied with him beating Margarito.Why wouldn't them & the fans that weren't satisfied with it & boxing fans like me that are telling U Martinez would have been better not give him credit for beating Martinez,a fighter that was no less than #2 at 154.How do U defend him for fighting Margarito then say he wouldn't get credit for beating Martinez who is clearly the better fighter right now??You do realize that those are some high ass expectations that nobody in boxing even comes close to acheiving. I wish every top PFP champion would be taking on two fighters that have won 7 diffrent championships in3 diffrent weight classes combined back to back. Lets also not forget being outweighed by 12 pounds or more come fight night.
I know Manny is #1 PFP but those are some ridiculous ass expectations. And I highly doubt a win of martinez would of shut anyone up, they would of just said that he's in his mid 30's and he was just another old washed up fighter.Comment
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Nope. For crying out loud, you have fools here that strongly believe Pac is on Roids and will never change their mind, so what makes you think they will change their opinion on Pac if he beats Martinez? Haters are gonna hate, and I'm sure the guy you're responding to were most likely talking about the Pac-haters, not the real boxing fans.Wait,U don't think that if Pacman beat Martinez at 154,that would have satisfied the entire boxing community??That doesn't even make sense bro.Most Pacman fans,(not all)are satisfied with him beating Margarito.Why wouldn't them & the fans that weren't satisfied with it & boxing fans like me that are telling U Martinez would have been better not give him credit for beating Martinez,a fighter that was no less than #2 at 154.How do U defend him for fighting Margarito then say he wouldn't get credit for beating Martinez who is clearly the better fighter right now??Comment
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Because ever since pac started his run it's been excuse after excuse after excuse. Now it's just turned into taking perfectly good opponents for any other champion fighter and conviniently making them bums over night. As it was said earlier imagine if Andre berto, Timmy bradley, or Amir Khan had beat Margarito, Clotty, and Mosely back to back to back! Would you be on your soap box clammoring for them to fight "middleweight" Champion sergio martinez? I doubt it!Wait,U don't think that if Pacman beat Martinez at 154,that would have satisfied the entire boxing community??That doesn't even make sense bro.Most Pacman fans,(not all)are satisfied with him beating Margarito.Why wouldn't them & the fans that weren't satisfied with it & boxing fans like me that are telling U Martinez would have been better not give him credit for beating Martinez,a fighter that was no less than #2 at 154.How do U defend him for fighting Margarito then say he wouldn't get credit for beating Martinez who is clearly the better fighter right now??Comment
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Dang, you're making too much sense.catweight is irrelevent, Oscar was the one who asked to fight pac man, and how convinient that 3 top rank ****** were also top 5 PFP welterweights for years and years and years. Like I said name any other fighter that has fought such high caliber opponents. I mean pac's last 5 opponents only have 14 world title wins between them but I guess everyone has fought that caliber of opposition.Comment
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