Could any of the ATG bantamweights beat Donaire?

[RubenSonny]

Maybe I was reaching a tad.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Ortiz. He's my 2nd favourite Bantam.

I think it's hard to tell as it's such a space in time.

But Ortiz definitely had the skills to atleast be competitive with him.

I don't think its reaching at all if we predict now its most likely gonna be in favor of greats, I don't think we should really be having this conversation at the moment, lets let Donaire prove himself against Moreno, Agbeko/Mares, Kameda etc.

[goblin213]

Maybe I was reaching a tad.

I'm a little biased when it comes to Ortiz. He's my 2nd favourite Bantam.

I think it's hard to tell as it's such a space in time.

But Ortiz definitely had the skills to atleast be competitive with him.

I understand. Manuel Ortiz is definitely more skillful than Donaire. Ortiz is a great inside fighter. But the athleticism, punching power, and speed of Donaire will be a problem. Kind of like the more skillful Toney losing to the speadfreak Jones.

[BigStereotype]

Yeah thats true, I think were jumping the gun here, I want to see him against someone who can take his punches.

That's the thing. Montiel has a great chin. If he can't take the punches, I don't wager too many at 118 can. Donaire has legitimate ATG power. I'm not one of these guys saying that Donaire is the future GOAT or anything, but I think he could really be something special.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't think its reaching at all if we predict now its most likely gonna be in favor of greats, I don't think we should really be having this conversation at the moment, lets let Donaire prove himself against Moreno, Agbeko/Mares, Kameda etc.

I think considering the space of time difference it is difficult to evaluate.

Atleast too difficult for me to say he outright wins. Like I said, I am biased toward Manuel Ortiz anyway.

However, I would still lean on Ortiz either way.

Off topic but I cannot wait for Donaire-Moreno (If it happens) Can't wait to see how Donaire deals with Moreno's skills.

[figzuki]

How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol

[goblin213]

How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol

That's superbantamweight bro.

[figzuki]

That's superbantamweight bro.

whoops haha my bad, i though somehow ya'll were talking about Donaire moving up to 122, my b's bro....

[IronDanHamza]

How come nobody has mentioned Wilfredo Gomez yet? lol

He's not a Bantamweight.

[goblin213]

But since you mentioned it, I think prime Gomez beats Donaire at 122. Gomez is unbeatable at that weight.

[RubenSonny]

That's the thing. Montiel has a great chin. If he can't take the punches, I don't wager too many at 118 can. Donaire has legitimate ATG power. I'm not one of these guys saying that Donaire is the future GOAT or anything, but I think he could really be something special.

I think he has ATG power too, but theres more to durability than just a good chin, but there isn't an ATG that can knock everyone out, I want to see what Donaires made of against someone he can't KO.

I think considering the space of time difference it is difficult to evaluate.

Atleast too difficult for me to say he outright wins. Like I said, I am biased toward Manuel Ortiz anyway.

However, I would still lean on Ortiz either way.

Off topic but I cannot wait for Donaire-Moreno (If it happens) Can't wait to see how Donaire deals with Moreno's skills.

Me too, I've been a big fan of Moreno for a long time, I will be rooting for him.