Is it just me...or does the super six mean nothing now?

[damned1974]

The winner should be ranked #1 because of having had better competition than Bute, but they won't be able to call themselves the best until they've fought the best, and Bute will be ranked #2, and is arguably the most talented in the fighter in the division, so they'll have to beat Bute before they can be called the best.

And the fact is that Showtime chose not to include Bute. That decision has nothing to do with whether Bute or Ward is better (assuming Ward wins the tournament). That question can only be settled in the ring. For you to pretend otherwise is just playing fantasy games.

To be honest,Froch should be ranked above Bute based on the quality of opposition he has faced.Bute's best wins to this day are Andrade (and I won't delve into the 1st fight!) and Sakio Bika...to be ranked above Froch is a joke,because it would have to be based on things that haven't happened or proven-all just assumptions based on "ifs" and potential,nothing factual.

Froch has beaten Taylor, Pascal, Abraham, and technically (I thought he lost) Dirrell. Those 4 wins **** on anything Bute has done (and probably will do) in his whole career.Bute could have bargained with Showtime if he wanted,but the truth is,he never raised a fuss.Just because he has stopped Miranda,Andrade and Brinkley doesn't earn him #2 spot in my book.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Truthfully, after the first round or two, it was obvious who the favorite was going to be; Andre Ward. The dark horse was either Kessler or Froch with a punchers chance.

Honestly, I couldn't care about the other fighters in terms of this tournament, becasue with Kessler gone, this would shape up into Froch-Ward. The match that makes the most sense, since Kessler was beaten by Ward.

True, Kessler did beat Froch, but Froch does have a unique style so all of his matches are independent from his prior bouts as it will come down to styles.

Still, I think Ward wins it and then 168 pounds REALLY gets interesting.

[thebowtod]

Well to be honest with you, I kinda agree with the OP. The tournament did not go as planned at all. Boxers leaving the tournament, injuries, people FAKING injuries, it just isn't going well. Boxing fans are probably happy about it regardless, but the casuals don't give a s*** about it anymore.

[Dave Rado]

lets be real now.

Thanks to some injuries and other BS, we missed out on some good potiental fights.

Abraham who was expected togo far, didn't. Froch who was expected to go nowhere is actually somewhere though im feeling like it's ending soon. Dirrell was exposed as a *****. No doubt about that one. And Kessler beating Froch then having a injury. Ruined everything. **** even Taylor getting KO'd was sour for the Super 6. He really deserved to be there and i thought he was going to be in the semis at least. Crazy how things change.

but we missed on great fights.

Dirrell-Kessler, Dirrell-Taylor, Taylor-Ward, etc.

^ Those fights would have made the Super 6 ALOT more meaningful and at the end of the day crown a legit SMW champ who beat very good fighters to become one.

Beating replacements who are less to par in Danny Green, Johnson means **** TBH

Green was considered for one of the original Super 6 places and was generally considered to be on a par with Dirrell before the tournament started - both were unproven prospects (and would be still if the tournament hadn't happened, and so would Ward be). It was more or less a coin toss whether Green would get in or Dirrell.

Johnson beat Green even more easily than Ward did and proved he is undoubtedly better than anyone outside the tournament other than Bute.

Missed great fights? We've had more best-in-class match-ups during the Super Six than we've had in any Division since the 1980s, and all you can do is moan about some match-ups that haven't happened (yet). Talk about being a glass half empty person! I can't believe how hard to please some people are.

Without the Super Six you'd still have missed all those fights, plus you'd have missed most of the fights that have happened. Instead we'd have had four alphabet belt holders just fighting bums, and Ward, Green and Dirrell would still be prospects who had never fought anyone with a ranking.

[-EX-]

I forgot about it, and don't care much about it anymore with all the problems it had unfortunantely...

[Cafe]

it was a SUPER APRIL FOOLS JOKE meant only for idoits to belive it was actually the best vs the best...

[Drunk Punch]

Well we already know that Ward and Froch have emerged as the two best fighters. I guess we could just skip to the final and forget Abraham and Johnson.

We've learned a lot from this tournament. Dirrell has all the skills but no heart and no guts. Abraham is very limited against superior boxers. Froch has the heart of a lion and can actually box, Kessler fights better in Copenhagan and Ward is a world champion in his hometown.

The format was too long and too many fighters, resulting in too many drop outs. Next time just 4 guys like the BWs.

I still like the idea and I think it's brought the best and worst out of the fighters involved.

[Dave Rado]

Bute could have bargained with Showtime if he wanted,but the truth is,he never raised a fuss.Just because he has stopped Miranda,Andrade and Brinkley doesn't earn him #2 spot in my book.

Bute would have had to cancel his rematch with Andrade in order to get in, and that was out of the question because he needed to prove a point against Andrade. And he is currently ranked #2 in every credible independent rankings other than boxrec, which still ranks him #1. The Ring, boxingscene, espn, yahoo, all rank Bute #2. The only way Froch can overtake him now is if he either beats Ward or beats Bute (unless Bute loses to someone in the meantime).

[damned1974]

lets be real now.

Thanks to some injuries and other BS, we missed out on some good potiental fights.

Abraham who was expected togo far, didn't. Froch who was expected to go nowhere is actually somewhere though im feeling like it's ending soon. Dirrell was exposed as a *****. No doubt about that one. And Kessler beating Froch then having a injury. Ruined everything. **** even Taylor getting KO'd was sour for the Super 6. He really deserved to be there and i thought he was going to be in the semis at least. Crazy how things change.

but we missed on great fights.

Dirrell-Kessler, Dirrell-Taylor, Taylor-Ward, etc.

^ Those fights would have made the Super 6 ALOT more meaningful and at the end of the day crown a legit SMW champ who beat very good fighters to become one.

Beating replacements who are less to par in Danny Green, Johnson means **** TBH

I didn't know DANNY Green was in the SMW tourney...he must be weight-draining himself from the Cruiserweight division-lol

[BoxingTech718]

The super six is great for boxing because it took the top guys in a division and got them to fight each other. Every weight class should have a super six tourney.