Comments Thread For: Pascal: Hopkins, Accept Your Defeats You Big Crybaby!

[Tiozzo]

Gassed? If anything he wasted more energy by bouncing all over the place and not letting his hands go. And when he did let his hands go he won rounds. That is why I gave Pascal the 5th and 8th and the 12th round was close enough to go either way. How can you gas yourself when you don't throw any punches? I will also ask does Pascal have a history of stamina problem? Because if he does he did not show it in the Dawson or Froch fight.

are you kidding me ? Pascal was very tired in the Dawson fight around the sixth round, I recall the HBO crew and all the people here in the forums noticed that

he was in a very grueling fight against Froch, so again, he was tired (so was Froch)

he appeared to have better energy in his 2 bouts against Diaconu

I too gave Pascal the fifth and eighth rounds against Hopkins

Pascal gassed himself because he spent quite a bit of his energy in the early goings, he was fighting off balance a lot, throwing hard punches, that takes a lot out of a fighter

Pascal has stated that his energy drop after the fifth round against Hopkins may have been caused by his heavy schedule, hence why he has elected to take a bit of a break between Hopkins 1 and the rematch

[Teddy Brenner]

Pascal had no game plan for Hopkins and it showed in the later rounds.

I think Pascal is going to be better prepared for the rematch, but, I can honestly see the rematch being another DRAW!

Where are they holding the fight?

[Ravens Fan]

are you kidding me ? Pascal was very tired in the Dawson fight around the sixth round, I recall the HBO crew and all the people here in the forums noticed that

he was in a very grueling fight against Froch, so again, he was tired (so was Froch)

he appeared to have better energy in his 2 bouts against Diaconu

I too gave Pascal the fifth and eighth rounds against Hopkins

Pascal gassed himself because he spent quite a bit of his energy in the early goings, he was fighting off balance a lot, throwing hard punches, that takes a lot out of a fighter

Pascal has stated that his energy drop after the fifth round against Hopkins may have been caused by his heavy schedule, hence why he has elected to take a bit of a break between Hopkins 1 and the rematch

I will have to be honest and say that I did not see the Dawson fight. With that said Pascal won and by all accounts it seems he beat Dawson rather easily. So, I have to ask how tired could he have been when he just beat a fighter who many believed was the best light heavyweight on the planet? As far as the Froch fight is concerned, I did see the fight and both fighters were throwing bombs. So I could see both off them being tired. But, being tired because your are throwing bombs is a tad bit different then being tired because you have stamina problems. Now onto the Hopkins fight. Pascal's punch total was 350 punches for the fight. That averages out to 29 punches per round. With that said one could claim, as you do, that Pascal was much busier in the early rounds and therefore punched himself out. However, that is not what happened, Al Bernstein stated within the first minute of the 3rd round that Pascal had thrown 59 punches up to that point. I assume he meant up to the end of the 2nd round and that would mean he consistently threw 29 punches a round during the entire fight. Which really is not that many punches and if he gassed out after only throwing 29 punches a round his problems may be more then just with his stamina.

Also, the only time anyone mentioned anything about Pascal's stamina was when Albert said something, I believe, going into the 10th round that Pascal has had stamina problems in the past. But, none of the announcers said anything about him being tired or gassed or anything about his stamina during this fight. Nor, did Pascal's corner. And the truth be told if Pascal did not have the knock downs Hopkins would have won the fight by a large margin. And you even admitted that Pascal didn't look that bad, stamina wise, against Diaconu. So I will ask where is the history?

But all this really doesn't matter because I was not questioning his stamina I was wondering why he seemed to move around and try to stay out of range of Hopkins. Because when he was trading with Hopkins he made the fight close. And yes I think Pascal's corner was giving him bad advice. I believe it was after the 9th or 10th round when the corner tells him, "If he hits you twice hit him three times and keep doing what you are doing" when he just spent the round doing pretty much nothing. I am no expert. I would have told him to stop wasting so much energy by backing up. And because Pascal was throwing some wild punches from the outside. He should have tried to cut the ring off and press him on the inside and hit him with the upper cuts that he was able to land on quite a few occasions.

[Tiozzo]

I will have to be honest and say that I did not see the Dawson fight. With that said Pascal won and by all accounts it seems he beat Dawson rather easily. So, I have to ask how tired could he have been when he just beat a fighter who many believed was the best light heavyweight on the planet? As far as the Froch fight is concerned, I did see the fight and both fighters were throwing bombs. So I could see both off them being tired. But, being tired because your are throwing bombs is a tad bit different then being tired because you have stamina problems. Now onto the Hopkins fight. Pascal's punch total was 350 punches for the fight. That averages out to 29 punches per round. With that said one could claim, as you do, that Pascal was much busier in the early rounds and therefore punched himself out. However, that is not what happened, Al Bernstein stated within the first minute of the 3rd round that Pascal had thrown 59 punches up to that point. I assume he meant up to the end of the 2nd round and that would mean he consistently threw 29 punches a round during the entire fight. Which really is not that many punches and if he gassed out after only throwing 29 punches a round his problems may be more then just with his stamina.

Also, the only time anyone mentioned anything about Pascal's stamina was when Albert said something, I believe, going into the 10th round that Pascal has had stamina problems in the past. But, none of the announcers said anything about him being tired or gassed or anything about his stamina during this fight. Nor, did Pascal's corner. And the truth be told if Pascal did not have the knock downs Hopkins would have won the fight by a large margin. And you even admitted that Pascal didn't look that bad, stamina wise, against Diaconu. So I will ask where is the history?

But all this really doesn't matter because I was not questioning his stamina I was wondering why he seemed to move around and try to stay out of range of Hopkins. Because when he was trading with Hopkins he made the fight close. And yes I think Pascal's corner was giving him bad advice. I believe it was after the 9th or 10th round when the corner tells him, "If he hits you twice hit him three times and keep doing what you are doing" when he just spent the round doing pretty much nothing. I am no expert. I would have told him to stop wasting so much energy by backing up. And because Pascal was throwing some wild punches from the outside. He should have tried to cut the ring off and press him on the inside and hit him with the upper cuts that he was able to land on quite a few occasions.

unlike Hopkins, Dawson did not press Pascal, he was resetting all the time, following Pascal around, but not throwing anything

he made Pascal's job easy, and even if Pascal was getting tired, he could get away with it and still win rounds with a couple of flurry

you're asking where's the history : maybe it is mental since Pascal doesn't show constant stamina problems (big stage, pressure) maybe it is physical (overtraining, big schedule)

anyhow, Pascal will have to answer many questions in his rematch with Hopkins

I do agree he was fighting on even terms with him when he was throwing, maybe the constant Hopkins pressure broke him down mentally, but he was tired for sure, he looked tired and took an awful lot of time to come out fighting between rounds

[bigsteinway]

Really is this dude serious, hes a bum. Hopefully after hopkins beats him again we dont have to hear about him. If dawson did his job right the first time he wouldnt even have a title...

[Tiozzo]

Pascal had no game plan for Hopkins and it showed in the later rounds.

I think Pascal is going to be better prepared for the rematch, but, I can honestly see the rematch being another DRAW!

Where are they holding the fight?

not true, Pascal had obviously been preparing some stuff, particularly that nice right uppercutt to counter Hopkins inside game

he was also countering Hopkins with that vicious left hook he throws after blocking a punch with a strange motion

they just probably didn't expect Hopkins would be as agressive as he was

...and the location for the fight has yet to be determined

[amayseng]

not true, Pascal had obviously been preparing some stuff, particularly that nice right uppercutt to counter Hopkins inside game

he was also countering Hopkins with that vicious left hook he throws after blocking a punch with a strange motion

they just probably didn't expect Hopkins would be as agressive as he was

...and the location for the fight has yet to be determined

very true, pascal was prepared, people really think a light heavyweight champ

comes to a title fight unprepared? the problem is, that he was out matched

physically and mentally. bhop has the mental edge, boxing knowledge and ring generalship. what was the surprise is that
hop still has the physical tools to use that knowledge...

also, pascal trains all wrong. his dna is more gifted to fast twitch mm fibers,

he needs to emphasize improving his slow twitch mm fibers endurance..

this is why he gases so easily.

how far can a sprinter run? not very, they are built for short burts not long distances and long endurance events..

[Tiozzo]

very true, pascal was prepared, people really think a light heavyweight champ

comes to a title fight unprepared? the problem is, that he was out matched

physically and mentally. bhop has the mental edge, boxing knowledge and ring generalship. what was the surprise is that
hop still has the physical tools to use that knowledge...

also, pascal trains all wrong. his dna is more gifted to fast twitch mm fibers,

he needs to emphasize improving his slow twitch mm fibers endurance..

this is why he gases so easily.

how far can a sprinter run? not very, they are built for short burts not long distances and long endurance events..

interesting

in theory, he should have knowledgeable people around him who know that kind of stuff, I wonder what's going on...

[deuce_drop]

interesting

in theory, he should have knowledgeable people around him who know that kind of stuff, I wonder what's going on...

i thnk that they only focus on his strengths in hopes that they will overshadow and carry his faults.


pascal not only needs to train for the long haul but he needs to mentally train for it as well, because all too many times we see him and other fighters like him who are prepared to go 12 hard rounds, but blow their energy before the 6th and it's survival mode from there on out.


for me, pascal didn't win that last fight nor did he deserve a draw, not one judge scored in his favor, but, pascal is a guy that you have to take into deep waters, and let him exhaust himself with his movement and his throw away punches that he uses to avoid exchanges........

bottom line, hopkins isnt going to be coming in the same way, he's already figured out pascal, and pascal doesn't have many facets to his game that can pose a problem for hopkins after that first look. nor does he have anything that hopkins has never seen before. the only way for pascal to win is a tko, or, complete domination, which i don't see either happening........