Pacquiao is the same exact fighter he was circa 2004

[The Gambler1981]

no..castillo has been stopped 5 times prior to floyd beating him, and should've lost in that fight.... pac beating cotto>>>>>>anything floyd has done in his entire carreer....

You do know those were stopped on cuts right. And he didn't lose the fight~

And do you really want to get into early career bullshit~

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

You do know those were stopped on cuts right. And he didn't lose the fight~

And do you really want to get into early career bullshit~

why not?

*****s do it all the time with pac & his early ko loses.


talk about double standards.


again.

[Canelo Phresh]

what's the matter, cant handle the truth?....lol

the truth is, is that 75% of you *******s worship manny as a living god and get irate when his career is critiqued by somebody not blinded by racial or national pride. and no the cotto victory was not a good victory. he wasnt the undefeated cotto before the marg fight and the weight draining and the fact that cotto didnt have his uncle in his corner only add to the dismal victory it was. seriosly pacs career at feather weight is undeniable but light weight and up their are so many holes in the sinking boat of mannys godhood atg theory that its laughable to even take you guys seriously anymore.

[The Gambler1981]

why not?

*****s do it all the time with pac & his early ko loses.


talk about double standards.


again.

They get mad about it and say it is meaningless or that is far in the past.

If they talk like that then they would be the one using double standards~



Try again if you want

[puga]

the truth is, is that 75% of you *******s worship manny as a living god and get irate when his career is critiqued by somebody not blinded by racial or national pride. and no the cotto victory was not a good victory. he wasnt the undefeated cotto before the marg fight and the weight draining and the fact that cotto didnt have his uncle in his corner only add to the dismal victory it was. seriosly pacs career at feather weight is undeniable but light weight and up their are so many holes in the sinking boat of mannys godhood atg theory that its laughable to even take you guys seriously anymore.

the ****..it's ok for you to down play pac's wins but not ok for pacfans to argue it?......gtfoh with your bull**** *****.....the cotto victory was not good , onlyto you.....if thatwas'nt a good win for pac, there 's no good win on floyd resume at all.....

[leone24]

nice response.

thanks for playing.

No. Seriously, it is like talking to a ceiling fan!

[puga]

You do know those were stopped on cuts right. And he didn't lose the fight~

And do you really want to get into early career bullshit~

...the reason i brought that up id coz this ***** said cotto was'nt a good win for mnnycoz he got stopped by marg...if you saw theat fight, cotto was outboxing margs til the late rounds when he got cut.....

[leone24]

the truth is, is that 75% of you *******s worship manny as a living god and get irate when his career is critiqued by somebody not blinded by racial or national pride. and no the cotto victory was not a good victory. he wasnt the undefeated cotto before the marg fight and the weight draining and the fact that cotto didnt have his uncle in his corner only add to the dismal victory it was. seriosly pacs career at feather weight is undeniable but light weight and up their are so many holes in the sinking boat of mannys godhood atg theory that its laughable to even take you guys seriously anymore.

Co-sign! and one thing i've never really understood, why cotto at 145lb but clottey and now mosley at 147lb??

[The Gambler1981]

...the reason i brought that up id coz this ***** said cotto was'nt a good win for mnnycoz he got stopped by marg...if you saw theat fight, cotto was outboxing margs til the late rounds when he got cut.....

I saw that fight it made me think a lot less of Cotto as a fighter, he fought a poor fight and he really isn't made of the sternest stuff if pushed constantly.

It is a good win but Cotto isn't all that either, especially if you consider the strengths and weaknesses of each guy.

[HandSpeed303]

Its easy to look like a 2 handed fighter when you are fighting Joshua Clottey and a vast array of shot washed up fighters not so easy against prime hall of famers like Morales and Marquez

Didn't Roger (Mayweather) say something like this just the other day?...