Pacquiao is the same exact fighter he was circa 2004

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

its a fact as clear as day that pacquiao didnt fight the best versions of cotto or margo and sorry to break it to you *******s but clottey is a tomato can deal with it. pacs feather weight career was undeniable but light weight and up was carefully guided.

thanks for your worthless opinion.

If pac never improved, what's with the countless steroid accusations?

Just one glaring example is the better use of his right hand. Pac never really had a great right hand, now he's knocking guys down with it (Cotto, Hatton) & even in the margarito fight, the 10th round i think, he almost knocked margo down with a counter right. If margo wasnt a super middleweight on fight night he would have gone down.

Anybody with a modicum of intelligence can see that pac has greatly improved as a fighter.

[Canelo Phresh]

thanks for your worthless opinion.

If pac never improved, what's with the countless steroid accusations?

Just one glaring example is the better use of his right hand. Pac never really had a great right hand, now he's knocking guys down with it (Cotto, Hatton) & even in the margarito fight, the 10th round i think, he almost knocked margo down with a counter right. If margo wasnt a super middleweight on fight night he would have gone down.

Anybody with a modicum of intelligence can see that pac has greatly improved as a fighter.

just stop. i never said he didnt improve his angles footwork or right hand but he didnt drastically improve them. and sorry but pac did not fight cotto pre marg or marg pre mosley. the hatton fights his but even that wasnt the best hatton.

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its a fact as clear as day that pacquiao didnt fight the best versions of cotto or margo and sorry to break it to you *******s but clottey is a tomato can deal with it. pacs feather weight career was undeniable but light weight and up was carefully guided.

Unlike Floyd who took on all comers at their prime.

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its a fact as clear as day that pacquiao didnt fight the best versions of cotto or margo and sorry to break it to you *******s but clottey is a tomato can deal with it. pacs feather weight career was undeniable but light weight and up was carefully guided.

pac's win over cotto >>>>>>> any floyd win

[Canelo Phresh]

Unlike Floyd who took on all comers at their prime.

i can talk pacquiao without mentioning floyd can you?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

just stop. i never said he didnt improve his angles footwork or right hand but he didnt drastically improve them. and sorry but pac did not fight cotto pre marg or marg pre mosley. the hatton fights his but even that wasnt the best hatton.

best versions? we can play this game all day with every single boxer. The best version of cotto, margarito, hatton, well pac was at feather & junior lightweight. Nothing you can do about that. We judge on what happened.

Did floyd fight the best version of arturo gatti? NO.

Did floyd fight the best version of shane mosley? NO.

But Floyd's skill & greatness is still undeniable & it showed.

Same with Pac.

Fact of the matter is, Pac doesnt need your verification that he's a great fighter & that he's improved. The majority of boxing fans & boxing scribes who get paid to cover the sport & went to college have given him that UNEQUIVOCALLY.

Fact of the matter is,

Your opinion is trivial & worthless.

[Canelo Phresh]

pac's win over cotto >>>>>>> any floyd win

No. Fighting cotto when he wasnt his best, weight draining and blaantly dodging the best at the moment mosley does not eat floyds best not even his rematch with castillo. i would have accepted morrales though...

[Canelo Phresh]

best versions? we can play this game all day with every single boxer. The best version of cotto, margarito, hatton, well pac was at feather & junior lightweight. Nothing you can do about that. We judge on what happened.

Did floyd fight the best version of arturo gatti? NO.

Did floyd fight the best version of shane mosley? NO.

But Floyd's skill & greatness is still undeniable & it showed.

Same with Pac.

Fact of the matter is, Pac doesnt need your verification that he's a great fighter & that he's improved. The majority of boxing fans & boxing scribes who get paid to cover the sport & went to college have given him that UNEQUIVOCALLY.

Fact of the matter is,

Your opinion is trivial & worthless.

why cant any of you *******s talk pac without mentioning floyd? seriously?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

why cant any of you *******s talk pac without mentioning floyd? seriously?

seriously *****,

how about you stay on point?

[Canelo Phresh]

best versions? we can play this game all day with every single boxer. The best version of cotto, margarito, hatton, well pac was at feather & junior lightweight. Nothing you can do about that. We judge on what happened.

Did floyd fight the best version of arturo gatti? NO.

Did floyd fight the best version of shane mosley? NO.

But Floyd's skill & greatness is still undeniable & it showed.

Same with Pac.

Fact of the matter is, Pac doesnt need your verification that he's a great fighter & that he's improved. The majority of boxing fans & boxing scribes who get paid to cover the sport & went to college have given him that UNEQUIVOCALLY.

Fact of the matter is,

Your opinion is trivial & worthless.

your an idiot. did you even read what i said? i did NOT say he hasnt improved or that he wasnt great. what i have said and what i always will say is that after marquez 2 hes been guided.