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  • Bierstadt
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    #1

    Nobody talks about how Donaire punched a fallen Montiel...




    Clear as day in the slow motion replay.

    Donaire repositions his body, looks at the falling Montiel (who's right knee is already touching the ground), bends down, and hits him right on the forehead with a hook, the same way Abraham landed his punch.

    The very same people who will say "It's so different, he already knocked him out/down, it was in the heat of the moment, happens in boxing all the time, blah blah blah" are the ones who ostracized Abraham last year. In normal speed Abraham's punch did appear "in the heat of the moment," but everyone threw a fit when they watched the slow motion as if Arthur calculated all his actions, had some tea, and decided to give Dirrell an excuse out of the tourney.
    Watching the slow motion of the Montiel knock out, it also appears as if Donaire intentionally punches an obviously downed opponent. See the similarities but the polarized responses to each?

    Now, of course, I do understand that the situations are different, I'm just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy.


    P.S. I'm no brain trauma expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if that follow-up punch actually caused some damage as well. The counter left obviously stunned him something terrible, but the second punch may have also worsened his dizziness and thus he could barely get up. Montiel should argue for a no contest. If he gets a good lawyer they can easily twist it that way.
    Last edited by Bierstadt; 02-23-2011, 12:55 AM.
  • mushahadeen
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    #2
    it would be similar to abrham-dirrell if donaire followed montiel to the plastic surgeon, tied up the doctor, put on a lab coat, and punched montiel again.

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    • ThePunchingBag
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      #3
      I said it was heat of the moment and I didn't ostracize Abraham.

      Fighting is very much an instinctual thing. Throwing a punch when your opponent's guard is down is second nature to these guys. Sometimes you're not aware your doing it until it's been done.

      No love lost for either fighter.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #4
        Originally posted by Bierstadt



        Clear as day in the slow motion replay.

        Donaire repositions his body, looks at the falling Montiel (who's right knee is already touching the ground), bends down, and hits him right on the forehead with a hook, the same way Abraham landed his punch.

        The very same people who will say "It's so different, he already knocked him out/down, it was in the heat of the moment, happens in boxing all the time, blah blah blah" are the ones who ostracized Abraham last year. In normal speed Abraham's punch did appear "in the heat of the moment," but everyone threw a fit when they watched the slow motion as if Arthur calculated all his actions, had some tea, and decided to give Dirrell an excuse out of the tourney.
        Watching the slow motion of the Montiel knock out, it also appears as if Donaire intentionally punches an obviously downed opponent. See the similarities but the polarized responses to each?

        Now, of course, I do understand that the situations are different, I'm just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy.


        P.S. I'm no brain trauma expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if that follow-up punch actually caused some damage as well. The counter left obviously stunned him something terrible, but the second punch may have also worsened his dizziness and thus he could barely get up. Montiel should argue for a no contest. If he gets a good lawyer they can easily twist it that way.
        it doesn't matter cause nonito didn't land it flush because he was out of position after he threw the hardest punch of his life... and also you're watching it in slow motion.

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        • Bierstadt
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          #5
          Originally posted by mushahadeen
          it would be similar to abrham-dirrell if donaire followed montiel to the plastic surgeon, tied up the doctor, put on a lab coat, and punched montiel again.
          You talking about the delay between Abraham's punch and the seemingly "immediate" nature with which Donaire follows up with a second punch?

          I'm not denying that, just saying that Abraham didn't devise a master plan within a fraction of a second while Donaire is totally innocent.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #6
            Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
            I said it was heat of the moment and I didn't ostracize Abraham.

            Fighting is very much an instinctual thing and when your opponent's guard is down, hitting them becomes instinctual. Sometimes you're not aware your doing it until it's been done.

            No love lost for either fighter.
            AA's punch was blatant...

            nonito's was in the heat of the moment... if you don't slow down the replay, you can see the uppercut was a split second after the left hook

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            • Bierstadt
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              #7
              Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
              I said it was heat of the moment and I didn't ostracize Abraham.

              Fighting is very much an instinctual thing. Throwing a punch when your opponent's guard is down is second nature to these guys. Sometimes you're not aware your doing it until it's been done.

              No love lost for either fighter.
              I appreciate your understanding. And I used that gif from your signature for demonstration, so thanks.

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              • badass316
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                #8
                From the other angle you can see that the punch didn't land. If you have the full fight, re-watch it again.

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                • Flabulous
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                  #9
                  Didn't make a bit of difference.

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                  • Jack Napier
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                    #10


                    fucking punch barely even touched him :laugh:
                    shit thread

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