Nobody talks about how Donaire punched a fallen Montiel...

[DARKSEID]

******ed ass thread

that was literally half a second after he landed and montiel wasn't even down yet.

[JM1]

Clear as day in the slow motion replay.

Donaire repositions his body, looks at the falling Montiel (who's right knee is already touching the ground), bends down, and hits him right on the forehead with a hook, the same way Abraham landed his punch.

The very same people who will say "It's so different, he already knocked him out/down, it was in the heat of the moment, happens in boxing all the time, blah blah blah" are the ones who ostracized Abraham last year. In normal speed Abraham's punch did appear "in the heat of the moment," but everyone threw a fit when they watched the slow motion as if Arthur calculated all his actions, had some tea, and decided to give Dirrell an excuse out of the tourney.
Watching the slow motion of the Montiel knock out, it also appears as if Donaire intentionally punches an obviously downed opponent. See the similarities but the polarized responses to each?

Now, of course, I do understand that the situations are different, I'm just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy.


P.S. I'm no brain trauma expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if that follow-up punch actually caused some damage as well. The counter left obviously stunned him something terrible, but the second punch may have also worsened his dizziness and thus he could barely get up. Montiel should argue for a no contest. If he gets a good lawyer they can easily twist it that way.

he was in the middle of throwing a combination. it happens all the time, even to me sometimes

[AFighter4U]

Clear as day in the slow motion replay.

Donaire repositions his body, looks at the falling Montiel (who's right knee is already touching the ground), bends down, and hits him right on the forehead with a hook, the same way Abraham landed his punch.

The very same people who will say "It's so different, he already knocked him out/down, it was in the heat of the moment, happens in boxing all the time, blah blah blah" are the ones who ostracized Abraham last year. In normal speed Abraham's punch did appear "in the heat of the moment," but everyone threw a fit when they watched the slow motion as if Arthur calculated all his actions, had some tea, and decided to give Dirrell an excuse out of the tourney.
Watching the slow motion of the Montiel knock out, it also appears as if Donaire intentionally punches an obviously downed opponent. See the similarities but the polarized responses to each?

Now, of course, I do understand that the situations are different, I'm just pointing out the inherent hypocrisy.


P.S. I'm no brain trauma expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if that follow-up punch actually caused some damage as well. The counter left obviously stunned him something terrible, but the second punch may have also worsened his dizziness and thus he could barely get up. Montiel should argue for a no contest. If he gets a good lawyer they can easily twist it that way.

i think the point of a lot of folks here TS is that there is no hypocrisy here.

since as even you pointed out, the two situations are entirely different, it is only logical to say that it is just natural for people to treat them differently.

hypocrisy is when two similar situations are treated differently because of favoritism, race or whatnot that causes the unfair treatment.

this is simply not the case.

[DARKSEID]

the ts's problem isn't hypocrisy

it's that he started watching boxing last week.

[Steak]

you do know that Montiel was still in the process of falling, wheras Dirrell had literally been sitting on the ground for a solid second or two, correct?

it makes a pretty big difference.

[deuce_drop]

thats a reaction punch, it's not like he was taking a knee, or was completely out on the ropes with no defense, etc.


also, i've watched it enough, and you can clearly see that it glances at best, but also donaire hit his own leg before that punch grazed montiel.........


there is no ill-intent other than the fact that they were fighting, sanctioned fighting at that.........

[Sweet Jesus]

Didn't really look like that punch landed.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Montiel was not down. Dirrell slipped and fell then..got punched. Someone please post that gif.

[BuckToothed]

Point being he threw the punch. Doesn't matter if it landed flush or not.

Was it Donaire's conscious intention to hit a falling opponent? The same way Abraham intentionally punched Dirrell fully aware that he was on the ground?

You know the rules, protect yourself at all times...
How do you know that Nonito knew that left hook sent Montiel to the moon?
I'm pretty sure all boxers/fighters are taught to keep punching until the ref stops you.
You really think a guy who is out to hurt you cared that your knee touched the canvas? which is not even clear from that footage.

On a side note, nobody brought up Margarito punching Cotto in the face when he clearly took a knee. That's more of what Abraham did.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Montiel is Brown and not slick, thats why.