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how isn't it, if you stand behind the fact Pac has fought De la Hoya weight drained, Hatton just never should had been in the ring with Pac, complete style.mis match, Cotto coming.off getting destroyed by Marg and whooped on by Clottey, who is another style mismatch, Margarito who got destroyed by Mosley.who.just got clowned by Floyd and drew with Mora who got embarrassed by Brian Vera if you stand by this and say Donaire last 11 fights does not stack.up.or is better p4p against Pacs last 5 and Mosley I could even throw in Diaz and his highly controversial win over Marquez if this is what you believe than I can't argue with you and we just have a difference of opinion -
didnt floyd verbally retire??
he should then therefore be off any list...
he is irrelevant, as he said he is retired, which means he no longer fightsComment
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the ol triangle theory huh?Originally posted by J Dubb II 330 View Post
that doesnt work in boxing, sorry...
hatton was prime and fighting prime weight against pac, one loss to the
best current boxer at that time.
dlh chose to go down in weight, he wasnt kidnapped and starved...
mora fought vera in a 12 foot ring, couldnt get on his horse and run all night
like he did against shaneComment
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1. pacman
2. floyd or donaireComment
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my personal top 5
Manny Pacquiao
Sergio Martinez
Nonito Donaire
Juan Manuel Marquez
Juanma LopezComment
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Floyd maintained his No. 2 position since his last two fights was a mismatch. Josie and the security guard.Comment
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lol well the last 11 boxers Donaire have fought was in their "prime" , Who cares if you think Hatton was in his prime pure mismatch, no.answer for Cotto, Clottey or Margarito, and I.doubt it was a 12 foot ring,don't give Mosley an excuse like dude ran, he still looked like **** and could outpoint a dude who was running. I don't think I was using the Triangle theory I was showing he is fighting either old past prime fighters, De la Hoya and Mosley, And already Mentally and physically beaten mis matches. but look at it whatever way you want, that's my opinion with enough facts to back it up.Originally posted by amayseng View PostComment
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Donaire should go up in heavier weight Division, he is too strong at Bantamweight Division.Comment
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No ****en way is Donaire higher then Marquez on the P4P list! The only elite names Donaire has on his resume is Darchynian and now montiel.Comment
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First P4P is Mythical
2nd its more prominent today than yesterday,, in other words back in the 60's it wasn't spoken of often, old timers always said SRR was the P4P greatest.
3rd I love it today.
So what is your criteria ??
I think we have to make comparisons with Power, Ability ( defense and offense), and taking a punch.
In respective weight classes !! So take Mayweather :
Great Defense, except he gets nailed. Mosley Judah Corley
Good offense but too cautious to Execute the lame and the palsy. Oopps thats been his opposition, sorry.
But I give him A for his Ability !!!
Power: Decent power but nothing special give him a B
Take a punch: He managed to escape from an OLD man, it was bad , real bad the way he looked. The old man couldn't pull the trigger but once or twice , if he was younger he would have KO'd Mayweather in Two. He gets a B on taking a punch.
Pac has a fair defense, although he sets up his offense from allowing a fighter to tee off on him, has the best offense, He gets an A
Power: Has Tremendous Power A+
takes a great shot = A+
Donaire
Ability = Great Defense Great Offense = A+
Power= A+
Takes a punch,,,, ? Darchy boy nailed him a time or two with no results. No one has moved him yet. He gets an A
I got him TIED with Pac.
Mayweather is way down the list:
1. he won't fight
2. He won't fight elite fighters but ducks
Marquez is third
The reason Marquez is in front of Marrillo is that he has fought more top elite fighters.
In the end its all Mythical but the top two have magic in their fists !!!!!!!Comment
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