He gets nothing from me.
Prime Prince Naseem would of Put Donaire in a comma....
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Who cares if he could or he couldn't? Hamed has been retired forever. What's the point of this thread? Comparing two fighters who will never fight each other? English pride at it's finest here.Comment
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And? Even if this were true -- which it's not -- what would this have to do with you giving Donaire credit?
So, because a guy isn't the best ever in the division or around his division EVER, he deserves "nothing from you."
Thankfully, he boxes for TRUE fans of the sport, and not ASS of boxingscene.com.
Regardless, the speed and technique of Donaire would have troubled Hamed, not to mention that Donaire has a decent chin and brilliant reflexes.
Fact of the matter is that we'll never know who would have won. What we do know is that Donaire is top 5 in the world and has had big wins against far bigger names than Hamed ever had.
Darchinyan and Montiel (both were pound for pounders when Donaire starched them in less then 9 total rounds if memory serves.) Hamed has...... no fighters that he beat that were pound for pounders when he fought them. AT ALL. No true world champions. Didn't unify and only faced one HOF or great or pound for pounder and it was after a loss and it sent him into retirement after he was brutally schooled.
Not to mention that Donaire's sole loss was his second professional fight. Which in boxing terms, means next to nothing. Essentially, he's undefeated.
AND... he's only getting better. He doesn't have to get knocked on his ass in big fights to show his skills. Something Hamed couldn't seem to avoid doing. AND.. he continues to train like a true professional.Last edited by THe TRiNiTY; 02-20-2011, 06:03 AM.Comment
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I'm not even english you ******?
I'm making an observation, The divison he is in right now ain't great, when he moves (which he will probably do for his next fight) he would of been in Naz weight class a few years back. Your an idiot.
Nice red karma bar, I can see you opinions are greatly respected
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Firstly, Yeah he had a good chin but so did alot of Naseems opponents and look what happened to them.And? Even if this were true -- which it's not -- what would this have to do with you giving Donaire credit?
So, because a guy isn't the best ever in the division or around his division EVER, he deserves "nothing from you."
Thankfully, he boxes for TRUE fans of the sport, and not ASS of boxingscene.com.
Regardless, the speed and technique of Donaire would have troubled Hamed, not to mention that Donaire has a decent chin and brilliant reflexes.
Fact of the matter is that we'll never know who would have won. What we do know is that Donaire is top 5 in the world, in all weight classes and has had big wins against far bigger names than Hamed ever had. Not to mention that his sole loss was his second professional fight. Which in boxing terms, meets next to nothing.
AND... he's only getting better. He doesn't have to get knocked on his ass in big fights to show his skills. Something Hamed couldn't seem to avoid doing. AND.. he continues to train like a true professional.
Secondly, You can't just distinguish a early loss as 'it means next to nothing,'
I'm not buying that all. He had a great amateur career and should of carried that into the pro's.
I'm not really trying to discredit him as it comes across, I think he a good boxer, but not great. People comparing him to Manny right now is ******, Manny is in the toughest the division in the sport, Donaire is nowhere near that kind of level.Comment
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I could dispute all of these things with you. However, forget all of it. It means nothing.Firstly, Yeah he had a good chin but so did alot of Naseems opponents and look what happened to them.
Secondly, You can't just distinguish a early loss as 'it means next to nothing,'
I'm not buying that all. He had a great amateur career and should of carried that into the pro's.
I'm not really trying to discredit him as it comes across, I think he a good boxer, but not great. People comparing him to Manny right now is ******, Manny is in the toughest the division in the sport, Donaire is nowhere near that kind of level.
Again, I would ask you.... If a fighter isn't great or Manny Pacquiao, or couldn't beat Naseem Hamed, why does that mean he gets "nothing from you?"
That seems a bit foolish.
And for the record, amateur skills usually help you out in terms of technique. However, the transition is always going to be a gradual one, generally speaking. He lost and then moved on and has remained all-but-untouchable after that point. So, it's a stretch to assume that that loss has had any ill effects on his career. Therefore, it's all but meaningless.Comment
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