Comments Thread For: Haye vs Povetkin: David, Sauerland Discuss The Fight

[dvb]

[QUOTE=jknightx;10133204]Wlad did give an an extesion of 2 weeks and then a week later Haye came back and ask 3 weeks, thats when Wlad so no because they would lose the stadium.And Wlad did not cancel the fight with HAYE ON JULY 2ND.. HAYE DID!stop twisting what actually took place.Wlad just signed to fight Chisora 9 weeks earlier and then Haye pulled out of the fight(again).
fair play,but still they could have found another venue im sure.
whats a few weeks waiting for such a big fight?.

did you see their emails and see haye say he pulled out?,or did you see wlad say we can still fight but im figting chisora??

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how can you not see that by wlad fighting 9 weeks before,which would probably be less than 9 weeks training for haye,how can you not see this is a blatent duck from wlad!.

hes fighting a 14 fight novice for ****s sake,defend that!,does anyone really know who chisora is?NO,does anyone see him as having a great amatuer background to dethrone the prime wlad?NO,did anyone ask wlad to make this fight ?NO,this is a waste of time fight wlad is using to duck haye.

was it hayes fault that wlad pulled out in december and was inactive?NO.

he would never do this,he could never follow this through with this 2 fights so close,possibly 3 if he does win and fight adamek!.

tell me he last did this(fight back to back so close)?,i can tell you ,it was 2000,he was 25. hes now like 35!.
and he only fight twice a year,the past decade hes fought like 3 times a year twice,2008 and 2002.

the bleedin obvious such as losing,injury and short promotion make wlads claims ridiculous and crazy. he is less preperared,possibly injure,has no time to rest and short training camp,way less than 9 weeks if you consider rest after a fight,and tapering down on fight week.

he has less coverage on his fight,and earns less money,doesnt seem like a klitschko thing to do does it!.

[dvb]

If you'd bother to READ before you start commenting, you'd know I was talking about Tomasz Adamek. Is Fury Polish?

sorryy bout that,misread it,ok adamek is good opponent,but in reality,he dont beat wlad,he got rocked by arreola,and he doesnt have any serious power.


And, Wlad should not be fighting Haye, as they should already have fought back in 2009, remember.

so wlad shouldnt be fighting haye becuase they should have fought but still havent?????.

remember haye's tv network went down,mans not fighting for nothing!.

Also, who should Wlad have chosen who's so much better a prospect than Chisora. Haye doesn't want to fight him anyway, and will probably get his ass kicked by Povetkin instead.

erm,anyone but him,lets see:
arreola,?
boystov?
helanius?
ustinov?
dimitenko(if he wanted to poach him)?

all that wlad wants is a fight which is easy,where he looks good,where the guy is a talker who is british who gives wlad some attention in the UK on sky,although all he will do is get criticised for a mismatch and a boring performance,or non contest type fight.

[The Hammer]

erm,anyone but him,lets see:
arreola,?
boystov?
helanius?
ustinov?
dimitenko(if he wanted to poach him)?

all that wlad wants is a fight which is easy,where he looks good,where the guy is a talker who is british who gives wlad some attention in the UK on sky,although all he will do is get criticised for a mismatch and a boring performance,or non contest type fight.

Why did Haye choose Audley Harrison, an age 39 clubfighter, instead of one of those guys?

Haye chose Audley over Wlad too, remember when Wlad called him out and was ignored?

[dvb]

Why did Haye choose Audley Harrison, an age 39 clubfighter, instead of one of those guys?

Funny how you can never defend wlads bull****!!!!!!!!!!!
,and try but fail to properly argue agianst haye!.

Haye chose Audley over Wlad too, remember when Wlad called him out and was ignored?

o,the ****sexual ****erotic video?,LOL. calling somone out whos already called you out previously,what a show for the public from wlad.

i dont like tht he chose him,but he did have reason to do so:

The stupid joe public wanted frauldey and haye to happen.

if haye fights a good ranked opponent,he gets good money but not much as fighting a big name like fraudley was.

Fraudley is an ex medalist,who is massive in the UK,EVERYONE knew who he was.( no one knows who the hel chisora is)

by everyone seeing fraudley fight haye,now everyone knows who Haye is.

They had storyline to the event,both were friends,both bitter fall out,both talked up the fight,it sold massively.

Haye earnt millions,and he never said it would be a contest,and never said fraudley was any good.there is proof of this all over youtube in interviews.

Fraudley talked himself up as having one punch KO power,everyone was stupid enough to beleve him and pay money to watch it,sky was bad enough to buy into aswell.even ex pros and commentators giving audley a chance.


so there,good enough,now you go and defend chisora as a reasonable opponent????.

and while your here,dont mind to argue my points on why wlad is clearly using chisora to duck,and how wlad cannot train and fight less than 9 weeks after a fight he says will be tough??.and then fight adamek (who is said to fight wlad as first option,said in ring and on epsn.com.)

lets talk on how wlads fights per year and gap between fights shows how very unlikely wlad would or could do what he claimied?.

[dvb]

i guess someone doesnt care to try and defend Wladimir!.

[ADP02]

Haye is lying again.

Chagaev wasn't "dragged off the beach" to fight Wlad.

Ruslan had been preparing to defend his title against Valuev, who refused to fight him because of the Hep B.

When Valuev *****ed out of the fight with Chagaev and Haye *****ed out of the fight with Wlad, Chagaev and Wladimir fought each other on less than two weeks notice. But both were in fighting shape because of the preparations for the other opponents.

This is why I hate David Haye. He constantly lies to discredit and propagandize against the Klitschkos. It's not normal trash talk, he's hateful and vicious.

Interesting ......

Whenever Vitali vs Lennox fight comes up on these boards, I constantly read, from the hardcore Klit fans that Vitali had just 2 weeks to prepare for Lennox .... not recognizing that it was a 2 weeks notice for Lennox as well AND BOTH were preparing for another fight.

[Weltschmerz]

He should be fighting David Haye.

Notice how Wlad didnt book the Chisora fight until after he realized Haye was serious about the negotiations. Its a duck move.

Haye should be the first priority for WLad, as Chisora does nothing for legacy. Wlad fcked up the fight on purpose because he wants to pass it to Vitali to protect that glass chin!!!

Eh, no..

Chisora is stay busy, Wlad's been ready to fight Haye all along, but he has lost patience with the guy who keeps lying and pulling out. He cannot trust a guy who constantly says he will fight but doesn't follow through, why should he.

[dvb]

Eh, no..

Chisora is stay busy, Wlad's been ready to fight Haye all along, but he has lost patience with the guy who keeps lying and pulling out. He cannot trust a guy who constantly says he will fight but doesn't follow through, why should he.

If wlad didnt want to be "rusty" and wanted a "tune up"why did we not hear this at the start of thier negotitations?

why did they bother starting to sort out venue and date if wlad wanted a tune up first??.

why agree germany and july 2nd if he then wanted a "tune up stay busy" fight so close to this date that it makes it near impossible for the unification fight to actually happen.

why fight adamek in september for no belt,when he could have fought someone and been fine to fight haye in september??.


the number one ranked heavyweight should NOT be fighting a 14 fight novice with no style and no chance to beat him.

so your saying wlad doesnt trust haye so he will never fight him??.

dont see why wlad did not get someone on the undercard as back up if he dont trust haye.

dont see why he didnt get haye to agree if either of them pulled out then either one would pay the other a huge amount of thier next fight purse to him.

still yet to hear anyone argue and discredit my points on wlads amout of fights per year and gap between fights!.

still yet to hear how wlad can definately fight 9 weeks or less after a fight without any problems what so ever with preperation and promotion being done properly and done with justice to such a huge mega unification fight that would be watched all over the wolrd.

[jknightx]

[QUOTE=dvb;10133451]

Wlad did give an an extesion of 2 weeks and then a week later Haye came back and ask 3 weeks, thats when Wlad so no because they would lose the stadium.And Wlad did not cancel the fight with HAYE ON JULY 2ND.. HAYE DID!stop twisting what actually took place.Wlad just signed to fight Chisora 9 weeks earlier and then Haye pulled out of the fight(again).
fair play,but still they could have found another venue im sure.
whats a few weeks waiting for such a big fight?.

did you see their emails and see haye say he pulled out?,or did you see wlad say we can still fight but im figting chisora??

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how can you not see that by wlad fighting 9 weeks before,which would probably be less than 9 weeks training for haye,how can you not see this is a blatent duck from wlad!.

hes fighting a 14 fight novice for ****s sake,defend that!,does anyone really know who chisora is?NO,does anyone see him as having a great amatuer background to dethrone the prime wlad?NO,did anyone ask wlad to make this fight ?NO,this is a waste of time fight wlad is using to duck haye.

was it hayes fault that wlad pulled out in december and was inactive?NO.

he would never do this,he could never follow this through with this 2 fights so close,possibly 3 if he does win and fight adamek!.

tell me he last did this(fight back to back so close)?,i can tell you ,it was 2000,he was 25. hes now like 35!.
and he only fight twice a year,the past decade hes fought like 3 times a year twice,2008 and 2002.

the bleedin obvious such as losing,injury and short promotion make wlads claims ridiculous and crazy. he is less preperared,possibly injure,has no time to rest and short training camp,way less than 9 weeks if you consider rest after a fight,and tapering down on fight week.

he has less coverage on his fight,and earns less money,doesnt seem like a klitschko thing to do does it!.

Dude Haye made a statement to the press saying"if Wlad fights Chisora in april I will not fight him on july 2nd!" his words ,not here say or opinion.And for what ever reson you want to buy into HAYE HIMSELF ADMITTED TO PULLING OUT OF THE FIGHTS WITH THE KLITSCHKOS. This not ifs or buts.it is fact that he did cancel on Wlad in the first becuase of,i HURT MY HAND,NO ITS BACK AND FINALLY THE BANKURPT REASON! aND THEN THE SLAVE CONTRACT AGAINST VITALI. (then he went sifgn a 3 fight deal with King). So why you state your opionion I am stating things that Hayes camp has released to the press.aND AAS FOR wLAD NOT BEING ABLE TO FIGHT 9 WEKS AFTER THE CHISORA fight,thatts Wlad decision.not Hayes.AND IF IT WAS A BLUFF haye should of called it, instead of walking away.Because now there is no way to prove Wlad was bluffing about fighting Haye in july,anything else is just what you "THINK " was going on ,not fact.

[Weltschmerz]

erm,anyone but him,lets see:
arreola,?
boystov?
helanius?
ustinov?
dimitenko(if he wanted to poach him)?

all that wlad wants is a fight which is easy,where he looks good,where the guy is a talker who is british who gives wlad some attention in the UK on sky,although all he will do is get criticised for a mismatch and a boring performance,or non contest type fight.

yeah he could fight those guys too, none would be a real threat.

Wlad doesn't care about 'attention in the UK' - he's the main man and everyone knows that.

Oh, and Haye 'fighting' Harrisson was no mismatch, boring performance, no contest type 'fight'? Or flat out fraud for that matter.

Emanuel Steward called Chisora a dangerous opponent for Wlad, and I take it he knows a wee bit more what he's talking about than you do :-/